Flush draw + gutshot on flop $25NL

[Son_Of_Arathorn]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $24.80
CO: $36.25
Button: $25.35
SB: $33.75
Aragorn: $40.85

Pre-flop: (5 players) Aragorn is BB with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $0.85</font>, SB folds, Aragorn calls.

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif ($1.8, 2 players)
Aragorn checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $1.25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Aragorn raises to $5.55</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in $24.5</font>, Aragorn calls.

Villain is 21/15/3.5 after 25 hands and seems decent. I didn't think I would be able to stack him often by check calling and hitting the flush/straight and I thought a check raise has some fold equity, plus it builds the pot if I manage to hit anything. After he pushes this is an easy call yes?

Comments on my actions and thought process would be great.

[LOwrestling2001]

u've got 12 outs...ur ~2.9:1 to a flush or straight, and not necessarily the nuts, and you are paying 2:1. This is probably not +EV.

[RAHZero]

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u've got 12 outs...ur ~2.9:1 to a flush or straight, and not necessarily the nuts, and you are paying 2:1. This is probably not +EV.

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This is wrong. You're 2:1 to hit the flush alone. With a flush draw and a gutshot, you're closer to 1.2:1. Sometimes I like a bet-3bet all-in here, but the check-raise is fine.

[dividius]

I wouldn't say it's an easy call. He's showing a lot of strength here....looks like an overpair or a set. But he also could be making a semi-bluff with AcKc, which would kill most of your outs. If he does have the set, he also has re-draw outs even if you hit your str8 or flush on the turn.

I wouldn't have called the allin, but I don't mind your raise on the flop before then. I tend to play a little more passively when I'm OOP with a drawing hand, so I would have just called, but you can certainly justify raising. Once he pushes allin though, it's time to cut your losses and move on. You're putting in a lot of chips that you aren't going to get back very often.

[Son_Of_Arathorn]

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u've got 12 outs...ur ~2.9:1 to a flush or straight, and not necessarily the nuts, and you are paying 2:1. This is probably not +EV.

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13 outs

[Hank Scorpio]

Everything is fine, but I prefer betting out the flop.

[Son_Of_Arathorn]

18.95 to call into a 31.85 pot.

My poker maths isn't too hot but we have odds of 1.2-1 to hit straight/flush and we are getting 1.68 or so to call. Is this right?

EDIT: Any specific reason why Hank?

[Hank Scorpio]

the call is right

[KurtSF]

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u've got 12 outs...

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13 outs

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Um, 15 right?

[Son_Of_Arathorn]

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u've got 12 outs...

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13 outs

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Um, 15 right?

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9 for flush, 4 for gutshot. My pair outs aren't good here I would imagine. Where do you get the other two from?

[RAHZero]

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u've got 12 outs...

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13 outs

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Um, 15 right?

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12. 13 is counting the Jc twice, 15 is for an OESFD. We have 9 clubs and the 3 other Jacks. We're 12/47 to hit on the turn and 12/46 to hit on the river if we miss on the turn. That means we're 45% to hit by the river. 1 - (1-12/47)*(1-12/46) = .45. If villain has a set or an overpair with club, we have less than 45% equity but still enough to call the shove here. The only hand that you hate to see here is AcKc (or AcJc).

[Hank Scorpio]

You're both wrong. You have 12 outs.

[Son_Of_Arathorn]

oops sorry