Can I play this better?

[raistlinx]

Rough weekend for beats... Do you play this any different? I know I have a set but it's hard to imagine what he calls with and then donks the river that I can beat.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
8 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $0.3</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($1.25, 5 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.6</font>, 2 folds, BB calls.

Turn: 8/images/graemlins/club.gif ($2.45, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.8</font>, BB calls.

River: 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($6.05, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in $3.3</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $12.65

[FalconTi0]

Raise PF and bet more on the turn

[gui166]

I would raise UTG... TT is strong enough to just set value it...

flop I'd bet about 0.90 or $1...

turn bet $2

and river is call obviously...

[raistlinx]

Sklansky says usually limp. I'll sometimes raise depending on the table.

[Hank Scorpio]

Huh? Where the heck does Sklansky say to limp with TT UTG at? It's just stupid.

[raistlinx]

NLHET&amp;P pg. 127... Also see top of page 128. How many books have you written?

[FalconTi0]

isnt that for full ring?

[raistlinx]

Yes, but with 8 it is still considered EP.

[thac]

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isnt that for full ring?

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This is 8-handed.. btw post in the Full Ring forum.

[FalconTi0]

6 handed i always raise TT

[Ricks]

It is also written that this strategy is for 9 &amp; 10 handed, $5/$10 blinds, deep stack cash games where everyone has at least a $1000 stack, although the same advice is given for MP.

He also states that experienced, winning players can pretty much ignore this strategy.

[raistlinx]

Yes, but .05/.10 with $10 is deep stacked and by "ignoring" they mean the strategy as a whole. They aren't saying any part of it is "wrong".

Many preflop guides even tell you to fold TT from UTG. I understand the arguments for limping, folding, open raising or even min raising. They all have their place and here I chose limping.

I should have added in my OP that I was questioning the play after the flop, not before. The big questions being (1) will we win this pot 1 in 4 times on the river and (2) did I manage to manipulate the pot correctly. Was there perhaps an argument for betting more/less on the flop/turn?

[Archon_Wing]

Open folding TT in NL??

BTW, I don't think there's anything wrong with limping here.
And this thread can be here; this forum isn't just for 6 max.

[raistlinx]

My bad. I thought some of the more conservative strategies talked about only playing AA, KK, AK and QQ UTG, but I was mistaken. It's all open or limp.

[Smilin']

On your original question: if you're going to bet on the flop (rather than checkraise), I'd definitely bet more--charge the straight draws and work at building the pot. On the turn, whatever, BB is short so it won't be hard to get it all in against a made hand; your bet amount seems fine to me.

And I definitely think you have a better than 1/4 chance of winning at the river. Could be a busted straight draw, could be J10, could be J8 or even 10-8, could be 44 or even 88, maybe a slowplayed overpair.... you're really only afraid of JJ and Q9. The river is a snap call, IMO.

[raistlinx]

Yeah, I guess it is just having that 'Q9' alarm bell go off in your head that makes you second guess the call.