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SirFelixCat
02-03-2007, 05:38 AM
Still the first orbit at a new table, so essentially, no reads. Making the transition from FR to SH and I'm still very much learning how to decide between pushing hard and pot control. Help me learn /images/graemlins/smile.gif


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $41.55
UTG+1: $27.45
CO: $24.55
Button: $26.75
Hero: $22.95
BB: $31.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($3.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($7.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $1</font>, Hero calls. ???

River: 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($9.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero ???

apple11
02-03-2007, 05:47 AM
With your line Id check and call a reasonable bet. I would have bet out on the turn though.

SirFelixCat
02-03-2007, 05:48 AM
Trust me, I wanted to bet, but thought about pot control w/o reads. Plus, if you get raised on the turn, then what?

detonum
02-03-2007, 06:09 AM
Then you're propably beat. Fold.

Vyse
02-03-2007, 06:45 AM
Bet the turn, c/c the river. With the way you played it, I suppose call the turn, check the river, call a reasonable bet.

holyfield5
02-03-2007, 06:48 AM
lol a dollar into 7 is an insult, raise it off principle

SirFelixCat
02-03-2007, 06:51 AM
Vyse, that makes sense. Tell me though, how do you play this vs an unknown.

And holyfield, LOL I know. these bets confuse the F*CK outta me though. When in doubt, raise right? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

holyfield5
02-03-2007, 06:57 AM
personally i check the turn, and lead out the river(check river if maniac)

with this line as i said id raise the turn off principle but given your play i bet out on the river 1/2 pot

lynxman73
02-04-2007, 02:23 AM
It is often way way toooo weak to not bet out because you are afraid of getting raised, you will crushed if this is the attitude you take. You have to charge flush draws here and lead the turn, if you get raised make a note of it and think a little harder the second time this person does it to you.

thetruest
02-04-2007, 04:03 AM
check raising the turn would have been good here, but usually come out and bet (he's not always betting 1 dolla).

thetruest
02-04-2007, 04:08 AM
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Bet the turn, c/c the river. With the way you played it, I suppose call the turn, check the river, call a reasonable bet.

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this was a great opportunity to check-raise here. As you played it you should have seen his small bet as weak on that board (possibly bet trying to give himself odds to draw).

Don't mind so much if the pot gets big for a pair compared to FR because pairs hold more value 6max i think in theory, so you can play those hands stronger than you would at FR. At 6max though you need to be careful about the bigger hands you play because villains can have alot of different holdings than they normally would FR, once the pot does get fat.

ADK
02-04-2007, 12:39 PM
the way you played it im probably check raising the turn, weak bet from him. but i lead in general and if he calls i'll check river

Vyse
02-04-2007, 03:05 PM
I don't like check raising here. I think because he bet $1 a lot of you guys are saying to check raise, but we don't know he'll do that. Check raising with such an exposed hand is going to scare A7, A8, etc, KQ, and it bloats the pot OOP when we can't control it on the river. What if villain smooth calls and the heart hits on the river? Where are you at now? A check could induce a bluff, or it could just be the flush wanting to get paid off. A blocking bet on the turn is fine, and another blocking bet on the river works too.