PDA

View Full Version : Euthanasia, a right to die with dignity


MidGe
02-01-2007, 06:54 AM
Here (http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/my-name-is-dr-john-elliott-and-im-about-to-die-with-my-head-heldhigh/2007/01/26/1169788692086.html) is a link to a just published article about a doctor in Australia, that had to travel to Switzerland, to ensure a dignified death. As I have posted before, I fully support this way of exiting life, and barring unpredictable ( /images/graemlins/smile.gif ) accidents, I will choose the same way.

PS This is self chosen euthanasia, not a decision by relatives or state.

flipdeadshot22
02-01-2007, 07:22 AM
A persons right to die with dignity should be respected as a personal freedom and protected by constitutional legislation. Thank you for the article.

Darryl_P
02-01-2007, 10:12 AM
It's too bad you guys in Australia have to put up with such stupid laws.

soon2bepro
02-01-2007, 11:14 AM
[ QUOTE ]
A persons right to die should be respected as a personal freedom

[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

FortunaMaximus
02-01-2007, 11:35 AM
Of course an individual's right to determine the course of his or her own life is solely in the judgment of the individual.

In health-related terminal illness cases, this is a very obvious concept, and the rights should be respected.

As for individuals that are judged unfit to determine their right to take their own life. I tend to think that there should be an attempt to help them try to look at it in a better light, and if that simply does not help, then you have to think if they feel, despite their apparent inability to correctly judge the merits, that it is better for them to take their own life...

Let be what may.

revots33
02-01-2007, 12:29 PM
Laws that take away a person's right to die are a violation of the separation of church and state IMO.

Check out this web page on euthanasia (http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/euthanas.html) (scroll down to the section on "Why Life is worth living: What the Bible teaches"). It lists six reasons why euthanasia is contrary to god's law, including "our bodies belong to God anyway" and "suffering draws us closer to God."

So if you are suffering and simply want to die peacefully and with dignity, sorry but we think your suffering is a good thing.

hashi92
02-01-2007, 12:39 PM
It would be really easy to use this as a cover up for murder.

hashi92
02-01-2007, 12:43 PM
What about insurance do they still have to pay.

Metric
02-01-2007, 02:36 PM
If I ever start caughing up my lungs due to terminal, malignant cancer, I sure don't need a doctor to finish me off. I'm more likely to take a hot-air balloon to altitude over the middle of the city, dump out a bag full of encrypted maps to buried treasure, and then jump headfirst from altitude into the 50 yard line of a college football game as it's being televised live.

At least, this seems the most interesting way to check out as of right now...

valenzuela
02-01-2007, 02:39 PM
Those who are agaisnt euthanasia think that we have some kinda obligation to do what they think its correct, at least this is how I view the whole issue.

John Kilduff
02-01-2007, 07:02 PM
[ QUOTE ]
It would be really easy to use this as a cover up for murder.

[/ QUOTE ]

Which is one reason why I think assisted suicide may be OK but retain much greater reservations about euthanasia. Assisted suicide =/ euthanasia.

soon2bepro
02-01-2007, 07:54 PM
[ QUOTE ]
It would be really easy to use this as a cover up for murder.

[/ QUOTE ]

bs

soon2bepro
02-01-2007, 07:55 PM
[ QUOTE ]
What about insurance do they still have to pay.

[/ QUOTE ]

The signed agreement would say.

valenzuela
02-01-2007, 07:59 PM
[ QUOTE ]
It would be really easy to use this as a cover up for murder.

[/ QUOTE ]

expand plz.

flipdeadshot22
02-01-2007, 08:08 PM
[ QUOTE ]
It would be really easy to use this as a cover up for murder.

[/ QUOTE ]

Uhhhh, they actually get the person on tape saying in their own words that they are willfully killing themself, so the people overseeing the euthanasia are absolved of any legal ramifications.

hashi92
02-01-2007, 08:11 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What about insurance do they still have to pay.

[/ QUOTE ]

The signed agreement would say.

[/ QUOTE ]

If a terminally ill patient ends his life early the insurance company could say that he took his own life therefore they do not have to pay.

arahant
02-01-2007, 08:52 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What about insurance do they still have to pay.

[/ QUOTE ]

The signed agreement would say.

[/ QUOTE ]

If a terminally ill patient ends his life early the insurance company could say that he took his own life therefore they do not have to pay.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not aware of ANY life insurance policies that exclude suicide. There is usually a 2-year exclusionary period to prevent anti-selection, but after 2 years, the cause of death is irrelevant.

Edit: In the case of a terminal illness, many (if not most) policies sold today actually allow for an acceleration of benefits. They will pay out some percentage of the proceeds in advance to help fund things like hospice care and final expenses.

vhawk01
02-02-2007, 12:14 PM
[ QUOTE ]
It would be really easy to use this as a cover up for murder.

[/ QUOTE ]

Good point. Also useful for murder: Cleaning supples.

vhawk01
02-02-2007, 12:15 PM
[ QUOTE ]
If I ever start caughing up my lungs due to terminal, malignant cancer, I sure don't need a doctor to finish me off. I'm more likely to take a hot-air balloon to altitude over the middle of the city, dump out a bag full of encrypted maps to buried treasure, and then jump headfirst from altitude into the 50 yard line of a college football game as it's being televised live.

At least, this seems the most interesting way to check out as of right now...

[/ QUOTE ]

I sure you hope you aren't invalid or otherwise incapacitated. It would make it hard to get into that balloon.