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jason1990
01-29-2007, 07:35 PM
An article from FOXNews.com, of all places. Damn that PATRIOT Act.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,248339,00.html

JPFisher55
01-29-2007, 07:41 PM
And I used to vote Republican. Not anymore. This is sad.

Jack Bando
01-29-2007, 08:30 PM
So the DoJ hates porn and poker (or two victimless activities)? What a friggin joke.

curious123
01-29-2007, 08:42 PM
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So the DoJ hates porn, poker, and pot (or 3 victimless activities)? What a friggin joke.

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tangled
01-29-2007, 09:43 PM
Did you notice who put out this story? Fox News - by far the most sympathetic news org. of republicans and the current administration.

YoureToast
01-29-2007, 10:07 PM
I've voted Republican for the 15 years I've been voting. I am absolutely disgusted by how far right the Bush administration has moved, to the point of removing the freedoms they so vehemently they attempt to protect. I will not be voting for Hilary and can only hope a moderate Republican is nominated. Gonzolez has got to go and my decision will be largely based on that. As sad as that is.

KotOD
01-29-2007, 10:21 PM
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Did you notice who put out this story? Fox News - by far the most sympathetic news org. of republicans and the current administration.

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The author, Radley Balko, is a libertarian, a thinker, a dogged investigator and a helluva man. By brute force and will he got a hearing for Corey Maye. Check out his blog, The Agitator, for additional info.

He's been against the attack on online gambling for awhile now. He's a fantastic ally in this fight.

Jack Bando
01-30-2007, 12:25 AM
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So the DoJ hates porn, poker, and pot (or 3 victimless activities)? What a friggin joke.

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I only put down thing I know from experience /images/graemlins/cool.gif, but pot's a good point as well.

Jerry D
01-30-2007, 11:19 AM
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So the DoJ hates porn and poker (or two victimless activities)? What a friggin joke.

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And they aren't talking about Child Porn folks. They want to prosecute mainstream porn producers who make your Jenna Jameson type mainstream adult porn. It probably won't be long before they start prosecuting Hollywood for cuss words. This right wing Republican justice dept. is literally out of control and on a crusade to turn us into a nanny state where ADULTS have no freedom whatsoever.

depictureboy
01-30-2007, 11:55 AM
The newest target(well maybe not that new) is MMORPG's like World of Warcraft or Everquest and Second Life.
Their determination is that since people are willing to pay X$ of real world money in some circumstances, that all transactions inside the game world can be valued accordingly and taxed irregardless of the medium of exchange.

Imagine some 15 year old getting a tax bill because he paid 15k plat for the l33t sword of Dragonslaying +15.

questions
01-30-2007, 12:54 PM
Anyone who watched the GOP push the federal marriage amendment in 2004 and try to intervene in the Terry Schiavo incident, should have known the score then, and if you voted GOP in 2004, well, hey, you can't really say it's out of character.

Megenoita
01-30-2007, 01:25 PM
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So the DoJ hates porn, poker, and pot (or 3 victimless activities)? What a friggin joke.

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lol victimless

The Don
01-30-2007, 02:10 PM
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God damn, 3 of my favorite activities.

HajiShirazu
01-30-2007, 03:00 PM
If this country gets to the point where regular porn is banned, I will leave. Poker is one thing - although banning it is already an incomprehensible violation of personal freedom as well as international law, at least one could argue that there is a legitimate national interest in stopping people from gambling (so they can have more money to purchase domestic goods and services, fewer bankruptcies/divorces, etc.) With the porn that is currently legal there is no legitimate argument one could make other than "we are christian and our imaginary god and book of fiction tells us it is wrong." All the feminist exploitation stuff is garbage - most people who act in porn do so because it is a better choice than the other jobs society provides to them, indicating that their quality of life would be adversely affected if this choice was taken away. They would be exploited to a far worse degree making 7 bucks an hour at some worthless retail job.

groo
01-30-2007, 03:25 PM
I'm still trying to find something (other than the book they read) that distinguishes US religious fundamentalists from Iraqi religous fundamentalists.

Can some one help me out?

Jack Bando
01-30-2007, 03:36 PM
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I'm still trying to find something (other than the book they read) that distinguishes US religious fundamentalists from Iraqi religous fundamentalists.

Can some one help me out?

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The US ones are in the US and like Jesus making them the good guys?

Megenoita, which part are you laughing at?

rokstedy
01-30-2007, 03:37 PM
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If this country gets to the point where regular porn is banned, I will leave. Poker is one thing - although banning it is already an incomprehensible violation of personal freedom as well as international law, at least one could argue that there is a legitimate national interest in stopping people from gambling (so they can have more money to purchase domestic goods and services, fewer bankruptcies/divorces, etc.) With the porn that is currently legal there is no legitimate argument one could make other than "we are christian and our imaginary god and book of fiction tells us it is wrong." All the feminist exploitation stuff is garbage - most people who act in porn do so because it is a better choice than the other jobs society provides to them, indicating that their quality of life would be adversely affected if this choice was taken away. They would be exploited to a far worse degree making 7 bucks an hour at some worthless retail job.

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The ultimate irony in all of this is that this country was founded under the notion of freedom of religion. That we didn't want to be told by our government what to believe in and what to do with our personal lives.

Un-phucking-believable.

billyjex
01-30-2007, 03:45 PM
god wtf i hate this country

hold me canada

mattnxtc
01-30-2007, 04:57 PM
So is this worth send letters to your congressmen on? Im tempted to send more letters asking them if they really can still support this administration that continues to try and build a govt closer and closer to a dictatorship?

monkfish62
01-30-2007, 05:17 PM
Hey, at least this government/justice department has learned how to run an effective jihad against its own citizens; just like the other guys do it. Maybe this Iraqi war hasn't been a total failure after all.

tangled
01-30-2007, 05:55 PM
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I've voted Republican for the 15 years I've been voting. I am absolutely disgusted by how far right the Bush administration has moved, to the point of removing the freedoms they so vehemently they attempt to protect. I will not be voting for Hilary and can only hope a moderate Republican is nominated. Gonzolez has got to go and my decision will be largely based on that. As sad as that is.

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Voting for a moderate Republican will do little good. The strongest arm of the Republican party are social conservatives. Every Republican sooner or later has to appease and placate them.
Remember, Bill Frist himself, is a moderate Republican. The reason UIGEA has come to us the way it did is because Frist was trying to suck up to social conservatives.

Jbrochu
01-30-2007, 06:30 PM
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I'm still trying to find something (other than the book they read) that distinguishes US religious fundamentalists from Iraqi religous fundamentalists.

Can some one help me out?

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US religous fundamentalists haven't been cutting peoples heads off with dull knives as far as I know...

sevencard2003
01-30-2007, 10:03 PM
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Anyone who watched the GOP push the federal marriage amendment in 2004 and try to intervene in the Terry Schiavo incident, should have known the score then, and if you voted GOP in 2004, well, hey, you can't really say it's out of character.

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this is the reason i voted for the GOP and for BUSH in 2004, because they are so strongly prolife, and against gay marriage, and i wish theyd quit wasting time keeping me from playing low stakes cards at home, and get back to the topics of much bigger impotance to conservatives. pushing people into casinos where the cheapest NL game is $100 buyin instead of $1 buyin sure dont help the guy whose got very little to gamble with and for whom gambling might become a problem, all is does is make his life worse. pushing people into casinos causes they to bet way over their bankrolls unlike online. i think its agreed to play 2-4 u need about a $1200-2000 bankroll, and about 95% of normal people (not 2+2 members but normal folks) dont have that much to gamble with. however they do have the $100-200 bankroll necessary to play 50c-1 limit at home.

MikeRice
01-30-2007, 10:44 PM
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1125318960389

Is porn not like a quarter of California's GDP? It could single handidly fund fund anything they choose to use the tax dollars for LOL.

tsearcher
01-30-2007, 11:28 PM
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Anyone who watched the GOP push the federal marriage amendment in 2004 and try to intervene in the Terry Schiavo incident, should have known the score then, and if you voted GOP in 2004, well, hey, you can't really say it's out of character.

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this is the reason i voted for the GOP and for BUSH in 2004, because they are so strongly prolife, and against gay marriage, and i wish theyd quit wasting time keeping me from playing low stakes cards at home, and get back to the topics of much bigger impotance to conservatives. pushing people into casinos where the cheapest NL game is $100 buyin instead of $1 buyin sure dont help the guy whose got very little to gamble with and for whom gambling might become a problem, all is does is make his life worse. pushing people into casinos causes they to bet way over their bankrolls unlike online. i think its agreed to play 2-4 u need about a $1200-2000 bankroll, and about 95% of normal people (not 2+2 members but normal folks) dont have that much to gamble with. however they do have the $100-200 bankroll necessary to play 50c-1 limit at home.

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So as long as the federal government oversteps its bounds with other peoples lives and rights(not to mention states rights), you are all for it. But when it affects your own, you are against it.

Emperor
01-31-2007, 12:48 AM
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Anyone who watched the GOP push the federal marriage amendment in 2004 and try to intervene in the Terry Schiavo incident, should have known the score then, and if you voted GOP in 2004, well, hey, you can't really say it's out of character.

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this is the reason i voted for the GOP and for BUSH in 2004, because they are so strongly prolife, and against gay marriage, and i wish theyd quit wasting time keeping me from playing low stakes cards at home, and get back to the topics of much bigger impotance to conservatives. pushing people into casinos where the cheapest NL game is $100 buyin instead of $1 buyin sure dont help the guy whose got very little to gamble with and for whom gambling might become a problem, all is does is make his life worse. pushing people into casinos causes they to bet way over their bankrolls unlike online. i think its agreed to play 2-4 u need about a $1200-2000 bankroll, and about 95% of normal people (not 2+2 members but normal folks) dont have that much to gamble with. however they do have the $100-200 bankroll necessary to play 50c-1 limit at home.

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So as long as the federal government oversteps its bounds with other peoples lives and rights(not to mention states rights), you are all for it. But when it affects your own, you are against it.

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Umm I think your sarcasm detector is broken

tsearcher
01-31-2007, 12:58 AM
Umm I think your sarcasm detector is broken

Maybe, but notice the lack of punctuation. Also check out some of his other posts.

TimM
01-31-2007, 01:30 AM
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So as long as the federal government oversteps its bounds with other peoples lives and rights(not to mention states rights), you are all for it. But when it affects your own, you are against it.

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I was about to make a nearly identical post, but scrolled down to see you had beat me to it.

groo
01-31-2007, 02:28 PM
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US religous fundamentalists haven't been cutting peoples heads off with dull knives as far as I know...


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True, though they still seem mostly philisophically very similar.

flight2q
01-31-2007, 03:46 PM
I was raised in a Puritan church. England wouldn't let us enforce our sharia there, so we came here. This is our time; it is foolish to resist!

Okay, I lied. We Puritans no longer wear funny clothes, and we've become Jesus freaks. It's the fake "Christians" you need to worry about - the ones who reject the New Testament in favor of the old. The ones who reject democracy in favor of their sharia.