HELP...CANADA HERE I COME

[WHoSBeTTaTHaNuS]

Basically I'm tired of the US, so i'm moving to Canada so I can gamboool.

It would suck if I move to Canada, just to see they make online gambling illegal too.

What Canada providence(and city) would be my best bet to move to, with online gambling my main objective?


Thanks for the input

[joeker]

Maybe rethink this:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=1#Post8905996 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8905996&an=0&page=1#Post 8905996)

[Mossberg]

Search the recent thread in this forum about "Canadian legislation", and you'll see we have fairly good reason to believe that Canada won't be attacking this issue in the same way the US gov't chose to. Personally, I believe that if they were going to take a step in the same direction, that they would have announced their intentions to do so already.

I live in the Vancouver area of British Columbia so that's all I can really recommend. It's a wonderful city with all kinds of stuff to do, great and readily available chronic, and several casinos as well. You should definitely look deeper into things before moving though - I think you will still have to pay taxes as an American even if you're living here. There have been several similar threads posted in this forum and the Internet Gambling forum over the past few monthes - just use the search function to search key words in those forums and you should have no problem locating them.

Good luck!

[j00ky]

I live in Calgary and if you like big city living and can afford to find a place to live here its great.

[keebler61]

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Search the recent thread in this forum about "Canadian legislation", and you'll see we have fairly good reason to believe that Canada won't be attacking this issue in the same way the US gov't chose to. Personally, I believe that if they were going to take a step in the same direction, that they would have announced their intentions to do so already.

I live in the Vancouver area of British Columbia so that's all I can really recommend. It's a wonderful city with all kinds of stuff to do, great and readily available chronic, and several casinos as well. You should definitely look deeper into things before moving though - I think you will still have to pay taxes as an American even if you're living here. There have been several similar threads posted in this forum and the Internet Gambling forum over the past few monthes - just use the search function to search key words in those forums and you should have no problem locating them.

Good luck!

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I thought you were excempt if you spent 11 of 12 months out of the country?

[jphil007]

Vancouver is a nice city and you can find casinos with Poker Rooms there!

Probably the best choice!

[Superflush]

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Search the recent thread in this forum about "Canadian legislation", and you'll see we have fairly good reason to believe that Canada won't be attacking this issue in the same way the US gov't chose to. Personally, I believe that if they were going to take a step in the same direction, that they would have announced their intentions to do so already.

I live in the Vancouver area of British Columbia so that's all I can really recommend. It's a wonderful city with all kinds of stuff to do, great and readily available chronic, and several casinos as well. You should definitely look deeper into things before moving though - I think you will still have to pay taxes as an American even if you're living here. There have been several similar threads posted in this forum and the Internet Gambling forum over the past few monthes - just use the search function to search key words in those forums and you should have no problem locating them.

Good luck!

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Just because Canada hasn't attacked this issue yet doesn't mean it never will be brought up. If the US finds that many of their residents are somehow using Canadian banks to play online poker, they could put considerable pressure on the Canadian government to rethink their laws. The new law is the US is relatively new, so at this point it is premature to say Canada will not be tackling this issue.



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I thought you were excempt if you spent 11 of 12 months out of the country?

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If you're a US resident and you live in Canada for more than 183 days in the calendar year then you have to declare your world wide income on your Canadian tax return. Likewise at this point, you would only have to declare your US income on your US tax return.

[Mossberg]

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Search the recent thread in this forum about "Canadian legislation", and you'll see we have fairly good reason to believe that Canada won't be attacking this issue in the same way the US gov't chose to. Personally, I believe that if they were going to take a step in the same direction, that they would have announced their intentions to do so already.

I live in the Vancouver area of British Columbia so that's all I can really recommend. It's a wonderful city with all kinds of stuff to do, great and readily available chronic, and several casinos as well. You should definitely look deeper into things before moving though - I think you will still have to pay taxes as an American even if you're living here. There have been several similar threads posted in this forum and the Internet Gambling forum over the past few monthes - just use the search function to search key words in those forums and you should have no problem locating them.

Good luck!

[/ QUOTE ]

Just because Canada hasn't attacked this issue yet doesn't mean it never will be brought up. If the US finds that many of their residents are somehow using Canadian banks to play online poker, they could put considerable pressure on the Canadian government to rethink their laws. The new law is the US is relatively new, so at this point it is premature to say Canada will not be tackling this issue.



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I thought you were excempt if you spent 11 of 12 months out of the country?

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If you're a US resident and you live in Canada for more than 183 days in the calendar year then you have to declare your world wide income on your Canadian tax return. Likewise at this point, you would only have to declare your US income on your US tax return.

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I never said that the issue will never be addressed by the Canadian gov't. I don't really want to argue about it because none of us know what will come of all this - However, to counter your point that the US may put pressure on our gov't if lots of Americans start to do their poker business through our banks -- I think it's obvious that this will never become widespread enough to catch the attention of anyone who matters. Obviously there will be a few pros in the US who will attempt to do this but by no means will it become a common method of depositing/withdrawing for your average joe.

So far I think that things are looking pretty good for us all.

[jonnycanada]

City to live in: Calgary, Toronto and Vancouver are all really expensive to find housing, but are nice cities. Generally, if you're an easterner, go Ontario, if westerner, go Alberta or BC.

Tax: If you intend to leave the US and sever your ties there, while buying a home in Canada, you become a Canadian resident immediately. You have to intend to give up your citizenship in the US or you will also be taxable there. The 183 day rule only applies if you remain a US citizen and merely visit Canada. If your principal residence is in Canada, you are resident here and pay tax here immediately.

Gambling: I doubt Canada will take a similar stance to the States. There is a too much gambling revenue raised for native indians for Canada to try and stomp it out and cause yet another rift with First Nations (this includes online as there is an area in Quebec that hosts online gambling servers). Quite frankly, I'm surprised the US has gone to the measures that it has.

[monkeyman]

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What Canada providence..


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wow.

[Superflush]

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So far I think that things are looking pretty good for us all.

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Yes I agree it is unlikely that the laws in Canada will change, especially considering the issues revolving aroound Native Indians in Canada, but who knows. They could rule it out for the rest of Canada except for Indian reserves.

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Quite frankly, I'm surprised the US has gone to the measures that it has.

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I'm not surprised. I think the US goes extreme on many measures, but that is a whole other forum.

[_Towelie_]

I live on the east coast, and it's... quaint. Seriously, it's boring as hell. If you're looking for some good card rooms to play live at than a western province is your best bet. HOWEVER, you should be aware that the cost of living increases significantly the further west you go. So here's the general rule of thumb:

West:
Fun +ev
Cost -ev

East:
Fun -ev
Cost +ev

[ryan1]

If enough US pressure is placed, i believe Canada will fold, and adjust its law accordinly..

[Superflush]

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I live on the east coast, and it's... quaint. Seriously, it's boring as hell. If you're looking for some good card rooms to play live at than a western province is your best bet. HOWEVER, you should be aware that the cost of living increases significantly the further west you go. So here's the general rule of thumb:

West:
Fun +ev
Cost -ev

East:
Fun -ev
Cost +ev

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Actually I believe Toronto (East side) is the most expensive area in Canada, and a great place to live. There is also Casino Niagara and Casino Rama close by, as well as many Charity and underground games.

[monkeyman]

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Actually I believe Toronto (East side) is the most expensive area in Canada, and a great place to live. There is also Casino Niagara and Casino Rama close by, as well as many Charity and underground games.

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i find it hard to beleive that east toronto is more expensive to live in than most parts of vancouver. unless you are talking about a small, specific neighbourhood.

[Superflush]

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i find it hard to beleive that east toronto is more expensive to live in than most parts of vancouver. unless you are talking about a small, specific neighbourhood.

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Nope. The highest cost of living in Canada is Toronto, followed by Vancover and Montreal, while Calgary and Ottawa are among the lowest.

[j00ky]

If you think Calgary has a low cost of living right now you are insane..

[WHoSBeTTaTHaNuS]

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Search the recent thread in this forum about "Canadian legislation", and you'll see we have fairly good reason to believe that Canada won't be attacking this issue in the same way the US gov't chose to. Personally, I believe that if they were going to take a step in the same direction, that they would have announced their intentions to do so already.

I live in the Vancouver area of British Columbia so that's all I can really recommend. It's a wonderful city with all kinds of stuff to do, great and readily available chronic, and several casinos as well. You should definitely look deeper into things before moving though - I think you will still have to pay taxes as an American even if you're living here. There have been several similar threads posted in this forum and the Internet Gambling forum over the past few monthes - just use the search function to search key words in those forums and you should have no problem locating them.

Good luck!

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Thanks for your help

Does anybody think Canada will make online gambling illegal in some providences, and not in others(like the US).

What Canada providence is the MOST LIKELY to never outlaw online gambling?

This is a big decision for me, and thank everybody for the input.

[Mossberg]

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Search the recent thread in this forum about "Canadian legislation", and you'll see we have fairly good reason to believe that Canada won't be attacking this issue in the same way the US gov't chose to. Personally, I believe that if they were going to take a step in the same direction, that they would have announced their intentions to do so already.

I live in the Vancouver area of British Columbia so that's all I can really recommend. It's a wonderful city with all kinds of stuff to do, great and readily available chronic, and several casinos as well. You should definitely look deeper into things before moving though - I think you will still have to pay taxes as an American even if you're living here. There have been several similar threads posted in this forum and the Internet Gambling forum over the past few monthes - just use the search function to search key words in those forums and you should have no problem locating them.

Good luck!

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Thanks for your help

Does anybody think Canada will make online gambling illegal in some providences, and not in others(like the US).

What Canada providence is the MOST LIKELY to never outlaw online gambling?

This is a big decision for me, and thank everybody for the input.

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It would definitely be a federal decision if it ever did happen. I wouldn't worry much about it if I were you - if anything it may get regulated or something in the future. But I'm almost certain Canada wouldn't take such a strong stand against it and do something ridiculous like "ban" it.

[monkeyman]

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Nope. The highest cost of living in Canada is Toronto, followed by Vancover and Montreal, while Calgary and Ottawa are among the lowest.

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source?

[monkeyman]

[ QUOTE ]

Does anybody think Canada will make online gambling illegal in some providences, and not in others(like the US).

What Canada providence is the MOST LIKELY to never outlaw online gambling?

This is a big decision for me, and thank everybody for the input.

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what the heck is a providence?

[Superflush]

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source?

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http://www.calgaryeconomicdevelopment.com/liveWorkPlay/Live/costOfLiving.cfm

[monkeyman]

anything more current?

[ericicecream]

How many of these "providences" do you guys have, eh?

[Fishhead24]

Great thread!

Thinking of moving to Canada also.......

[LeDan]

Move to Las Vegas. Warmer weather and tourists. The strip is loaded with action at the poker tables.

[ollie5050]

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Move to Las Vegas. Warmer weather and tourists. The strip is loaded with action at the poker tables.

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and the girls are nice there too!!!!

[TheMetetron]

This is retarded. You can't legally live in Canada. It did sound nice for a second there though, huh?

[redbeard]

hey met sorry to bug you on this but i know nothing about spending time outside the united states. i know that i can go to a ups store or mail boxes etc. and get a street address in canada. with that i can get a canadian bank account and open a neteller account with that canadian address. if i can find a place to stay up there then (which maybe this is where my problem is but i venture to say i could stay at a hotel or probably even rent something somewhere) why can't i just stay in canada 11.5 months and come back to the usa and pay taxes in the usa and then go back up to canada again for another 11.5 months. where is my flaw in that line? again i don't know squat about laws for us citizen living out side the u.s. or laws in canada, so i welcome any info you or anyone else can provide.

[Mental]

"What Canada providence"

This guy would fit right in with Ricky, Julian and Bubbles.

[jphil007]

It is a PROVINCE! Not a PROVIDENCE! lol

USA: state
Canada: province