JJ -- Raise this turn to charge the draws?

[Bort99]

Or flat call and try to get there cheaply? Readless.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $16.35
UTG+1: $35.30
CO: $55.80
Hero: $28.70
SB: $24
BB: $47.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($2.25, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.5</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($5.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $3.5</font>, Hero calls.

River: Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($12.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $8</font>, Hero folds.

[Unknown Soldier]

reads? How long have you been playing?

[Bort99]

No reads. Sat down an orbit prior.

[Unknown Soldier]

hmm in that case I just call. For pot control, river is a fold aswell I'd say.

[jdefoe]

I think if you raise it makes the hand easier to play, because you can fold to a reraise, AND he won't bluff the river after your show of strength. BUT I think calling may be the better play since he could have anything.

If I had to guess his hand it would be the A /images/graemlins/spade.gif T /images/graemlins/spade.gif or A /images/graemlins/spade.gifJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif because he called the flop bet, bet on the turn when he picked up a few more straight outs, then bet big on the river when he made his hand.

Plus, how can he bet this river without a set or flush (more likely)? I don't see this being a bluff very much.

[TheWorstPlayer]

I think you played it well.

[crookdimwit]

Seems about right to me as played.

At the turn, I think its tempting to raise, but if you put villain on a flush draw or overcards, you need to raise a decent amount to give him bad odds. His turn bet makes it $9 or so in the pot. I think you'd need to raise it close to the size of the pot to get a lot of players off the draw. Are you willing to invest another $10-12 in this hand with just an overpair? Not too attractive to me, especially since you're hurting if a spade drops on the river.

I think the call is good on the turn as-is, and if the river was a blank, you could bet for value, othewise folding...

NH