50NL makes straight on paired board on the river

[Unknown Soldier]

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $52.10
UTG+1: $21.30
hero: $49.75
Button: $65.75
SB: $122.87
BB: $54.30

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $1.75</font>, hero calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 8/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif ($4.25, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $3</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: T/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($10.25, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, hero checks.

River: K/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($10.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $2.5</font>, hero?


calls, raises? The bet is really small, I imagine if I raise I'll get value out of alot of As, however FH is possible. from his flop play an A is very likely imo.

reads: can't remember, sorry!

[Rollos]

This looks like a missed flush draw to me, so we are probably not going to get much value if we raise. Therefore, I think a miniraise amountish will extract the most value.

[Unknown Soldier]

and obv. call if he pushes?

[Route66]

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This looks like a missed flush draw to me, so we are probably not going to get much value if we raise. Therefore, I think a miniraise amountish will extract the most value.

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I don't understand this... if it's a missed flush draw he won't call even a minraise, so any raise at all cannot be profitable. Unless I have a real good read I don't like raising here. There are few hands we beat that would call a raise. If villain had checked, I'd have checked behind.

[Unknown Soldier]

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There are few hands we beat that would call a raise

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alot of Ax hands

[evilempire]

tons of hands call a raise. I raise and fold to a push w/o reads

[Unknown Soldier]

how much do you raise to evil?

[Route66]

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alot of Ax hands

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True, but if he has a lone A, I don't understand why he let the flush draw for free. I'd have led both flop and turn with a A, unless I happened to have A8 (or AT on the turn).

[Unknown Soldier]

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I'd have led both flop and turn with a A, unless I happened to have A8 (or AT on the turn)

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i know, and it's clearly the correct play. However, alot of fishies see the 3 aces and are so afraid of not extracting enough from them that they slow play.

[Route66]

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I raise and fold to a push

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I'm not clear on this... if you think you have the best hand and it's good enough for a raise, why fold if he pushes? If you're not sure, why not just call?

[barryc83]

I raise to $8 on river for value and fold to a push, but I def. call a donkish RR.

[Numfar]

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There are few hands we beat that would call a raise

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alot of Ax hands

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Without reads I'm not sure that we can assume that he raises PF with many of them - except AQ &amp; AJ + a couple that beat us.

His River bet is weird but he could easily have a monster and thinks that you have pretty much nothing. IMO it's marginal between calling &amp; raising but I probably call unless I have reason to believe that his weak River bet means weak hand.

[evilempire]

I raise to 7.5.

[evilempire]

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I raise and fold to a push

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I'm not clear on this... if you think you have the best hand and it's good enough for a raise, why fold if he pushes? If you're not sure, why not just call?

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Hands that we beat will call a raise to about 7.5 (any ace and sometimes even just a king). But if they push they are saying they've got a full house (sometimes just a good Ace and kicker) but a full house enough of the time we should be folding.

(I think we have the best hand, unless he pushes)

[Route66]

Fair enough... I'd still rather have a read before raising this though.

Also, because of stack sizes I think you'll still be in a tough spot if he 3bets the river all in... the pot will be $34 and it will be $9 to call. If he'd bet and call a raise with a hand I can beat, he could also shove his last $9 in with the same hand and I'll have no idea what it means.