Boring overpair hand -- is this a set often enough to fold?

[Bort99]

Or do we just push and figure it's +ev. Wet board.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $49.85
Hero: $25
CO: $29.35
Button: $47.10
SB: $19.50
BB: $18.30

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($3, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $11.5</font>

[Unknown Soldier]

urgh, that's uuuugly

read dependent really, but most of the time I can't see your aces being good here. Can you see him doing this with AQ/KQ? Not usually

[Rollos]

This is really read dependent. If villian is loose and aggresive, I pretty much shoving everytime. In a vaccume though I just fold.

[Waingro]

Raise the flop much more, push it in after his 3bet. Villain is sitting with 73 bbs, just get it in anyway you can.

[Unknown Soldier]

hero hasnt got the nuts jim, far from it.

[Rollos]

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Raise the flop much more, push it in after his 3bet. Villain is sitting with 73 bbs, just get it in anyway you can.

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Raising the flop more is horrible. Anything more than a PSB pretty much turns our hands face up.

[barryc83]

Man if you guys think my advice is dumb please tell me.

Against unknowns I will push flop here all day. Against a tag I prolly fold to his RR. I've been called w/ tp here so much lately (I do play on PS however). People play AQ/KQ/QJ like its the nuts when they hit top pair. I need reads to fold IMO. You have backdoor draws and he's only 75 bb deep so I push here.

[Esmerelda]

a pot sized bet would make the raise about 7.5. Which is what I would do and then prolly call. I think he is pushing a strong draw here a lot (but maybe because I would). Too read dependent to say for sure.

[KEW]

Shove over the top on the flop..Raise a larger amount to 6-7 on the flop..Villain doesnot have a full stack and he will be pushing TP or draws often enough to be +EV..

Based on PF action the only hand I would fear is 88..QQ re-raise and TT will re-raise PF a good % of the time..J9(nut straight) would slowplay or C/R..At this level they love to slowplay and C/R monster rarely do I see someone lead with a sets..

[freedom18]

i totally see a tag playing a set like this, and random noobsi dont know tt

[Marshall28]

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Raise the flop much more, push it in after his 3bet. Villain is sitting with 73 bbs, just get it in anyway you can.

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Raising the flop more is horrible. Anything more than a PSB pretty much turns our hands face up.

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you are an idiot.

OP, plz raise to more than 3x the bet on the flop. the minraise is what turns your hand face up. be a man, put in a solid raise. then once he raises, SHOVE!