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biblo22
01-09-2007, 09:41 AM
Just moved my roll to party poker so absolutely no read on anyone, this guy had been playing pretty solid poker tho, some occaisional over betting but hadnt shown down any hands.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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Button ($54.10)
SB ($17.45)
BB ($19.15)
Hero ($70.70)
MP ($73.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.75) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, MP calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.75) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $14</font>, Hero ??

I think my turn bet looks really [censored] weak and i hate it, so it would be quite easy to make this move given that the bet looks weak but theres alot of 2 pair hands in his range here even JT(straight) is, especially the way they play at PP.

Whats the best line to take? call and reevaluate on the river? if the river bricks whats the largest bet you would call? what if a 4th heart comes out, my hands worthless right?

If i check on the river i think AQ and other 2 pair hands are still going to bet for value so im gonna have little idea where im at, is this all the result of a weak turn bet?

HoldEmNewby
01-09-2007, 09:52 AM
JT :hearts: and 99 are what we're fearing. I don't think the turn bet is all that terrible. Call the turn mini raise. Check river. I'd be comfortable calling up to a 3/4 psb provided river isn't a heart and isn't a J or T.

If a 4th heart falls we're done. With this hand. If a J or T comes down we need to start looking more towards folding. Under these scenarios anything greater than 1/4 pot bet from villain is too much to call IMO.

munkey
01-09-2007, 10:01 AM
I'll probably call that turn minraise and c/f river unless boated or a small bet - there's alot that beats us and even though this could easily be a 2 pair rather than a flush, though i think a flush is a large part of villans range, so much so I think it's likely has the Q hearts.

We beat Ax/1card fdraws and if you think this is a potentially ok player he might check river with 2 pair but I think he's got a flush more often and will bet/push river.