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SeanyBullets

01-08-2007, 10:53 PM

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
3 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
Button: $11.95
Hero: $24.85
BB: $28.65

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($0.75, 3 players)
Hero bets $0.75, BB raises to $1.5, Button folds, Hero raises to $5.75, BB calls.

Turn: 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($12.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $7, BB raises all-in $23.4, Hero calls all-in $12.6.
Uncalled bets: $3.8 returned to BB.

River: A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($51.45, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $51.45)

Results:
Final pot: $51.45
Hero showed Tc Js
BB showed 9h Qh

Unknown Soldier

01-08-2007, 10:57 PM

not after you lead the turn, but I don't think I would lead. a flush is a large part of villains range now after flop play

ybother

01-08-2007, 11:00 PM

along the same lines of unknowns point, you can avoid going broke only if you make your turn bet while being committed to laying down to a push

barryc83

01-08-2007, 11:12 PM

Check turn. Call a donkish bet on turn, fold if he pushes IMO.

Low_Card2

01-08-2007, 11:14 PM

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not after you lead the turn, but I don't think I would lead. a flush is a large part of villains range now after flop play

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Esmerelda

01-09-2007, 02:51 AM

Hard to read this betting pattern. His minraise means he doesn't know how to size his bets.

This board has a lot of draws including some very strong ones. I find his flop play strange for a draw since they usually just call (or push when you 3bet) but nothing is really strange in here.

The turn is a tough spot. Checking gives him a free card if he is on OESD (not that likely but definitely in the range). Worse it invites a lot of difficult to call turn bluffs.

So for me even though leading is likely to be spew i think it saves the most equity in the pot because it allows you to prevent bluffs and give you some chance to get away cheaply (obviously not as cheaply as c/f which is arguably the play).

I think you can get away from this on the turn unless you have a read that says villain is likely to be bluffing. You are getting 3:1 to call but you are 10.5:1 to hit the boat.

If he just calls you will be in the same spot on the river but I think I check and fold to most villains at that point but this is a tough question as well.

Speedlimits

01-09-2007, 02:52 AM

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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
3 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
Button: $11.95
Hero: $24.85
BB: $28.65

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($0.75, 3 players)
Hero bets $0.75, BB raises to $1.5, Button folds, Hero raises to $5.75, BB calls.

Turn: 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($12.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $7, BB raises all-in $23.4, Hero calls all-in $12.6.
Uncalled bets: $3.8 returned to BB.

River: A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($51.45, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $51.45)

Results:
Final pot: $51.45
Hero showed Tc Js
BB showed 9h Qh

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Unraised pot, I check/fold the turn here.