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SpecT
01-08-2007, 04:36 AM
This guy seems like a standard, pretty good player. I've had ppl tell me u cant fold KK for 100bb without a pretty big read, but is he ever doin this with QQ/AK?

btw, i play tag, this is the 1st time ive 3bet on this table and havent been out of line, or tryin to run over the table or anything, so its very unlikely that he's fed up with me and playing back

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $189.35
UTG+1: $100
CO: $58.85
Button: $40.15
Hero: $99.80
BB: $109.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $3</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $12</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $45</font>, Hero...

orange
01-08-2007, 04:43 AM
i dont fold here. either call/shove flop or just shove now.

Grey
01-08-2007, 04:53 AM
Easy push.

Loc0Loc0
01-08-2007, 04:58 AM
I think my money is going in here...

For him is ur range... (TT)JJ+.... so his re-raising range could be.. QQ KK AA AK...
Only behind against AA... zo I will get my money in there

hongster
01-08-2007, 05:04 AM
totally standard (lol) shoveaments

SpecT
01-08-2007, 05:08 AM
well i folded and he showed AA... i seriously think his 4bettin range is only KK+, mayb on occasions AK but we're only slightly better than 2:1 against that.
I know it's 'totally standard' to go broke here, but i just dont see how it's +EV in the longrun

deaders
01-08-2007, 05:16 AM
Especially if you have 3bet him lately you will see plenty of people do this with AK AQ QQ JJ TT etc

Really bad fold.

AljdrA
01-08-2007, 08:11 AM
I'll push/call
But getting to my PT stats there is a 80% he has AA.

Grey
01-08-2007, 08:16 AM
Just FYI- it is very +EV to 4bet against you with any two cards.

mbman
01-08-2007, 09:25 AM
People donīt like to fold KK, I am not sure I agree. This is AA like 85% of the time at least I would say. Sure, he could be a donk doing this with random holding, usually JJ-QQ or AK, but AA is so much more common. Personally, I donīt really mind a fold here vs unknown. However, I probably push almost everytime here, knowing I would be berated on this forum if I folded, then I kick myself in the head when he flips over his sooo obvious AA...

Grey
01-08-2007, 09:33 AM
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This is AA like 85% of the time at least I would say.

[/ QUOTE ]Y'all are [censored] nuts.