2 hands: raised with overpair/TPTK by unknown

[friend_]

I very often feel completely lost against unknown, it is like jumping into the dark.
Hopefully we are not deepstacked in these two hands.
So, villain is absolutely unknown.

Hand 1.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $144.34
CO: $163.50
Hero: $99
SB: $38.30
BB: $62.35

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($20, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $14</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Turn: 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($48, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $31</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $125.34</font>, Hero ?

Hand 2.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $30.72
UTG+1: $31.35
CO: $182.27
Button: $162
SB: $41.79
Hero: $125.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $5</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($46.5, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 calls all-in $16.35</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero?

[Praetor]

id call #1 and begrudgingly fold #2

[Sciolist]

I'd check behind on turn in #1, it's a good chance to keep the pot smaller and get more value from A9 or QT or something that may just run away if you bet turn again. Of course, it also means you have to sometimes call when he hits a draw.

#2: Bleh. I think you're dead.

[friend_]

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I'd check behind on turn in #1, it's a good chance to keep the pot smaller and get more value from A9 or QT or something that may just run away if you bet turn again. Of course, it also means you have to sometimes call when he hits a draw.

#2: Bleh. I think you're dead.

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1) I dont like checking the turn - lots of draws are possible.
2) It is because UTG allin on the flop?

Can you tell me what do "meh" and "bleh" mean?

[Sciolist]

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1) I dont like checking the turn - lots of draws are possible.
2) It is because UTG allin on the flop?

Can you tell me what do "meh" and "bleh" mean?

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Sure, lots of draws are possible but lots of hands you can get value out of will fold if you bet again on the turn. It also keeps pot smaller if you're already dead. Have to give some free cards sometimes.

I think it's just me that says bleh? I have no idea. It's just a sound of disgust.

[Praetor]

bleh and meh mean the same thing - indifference

[friend_]

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bleh and meh mean the same thing - indifference

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indifference? you mean lack of concern? give a synonym, pls.

[Jigsaws]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=meh

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bleh

Hand 1: this one is close. There's a ton of draws out there, so you'd think he want to raise the flop w/ a set to protect his hand. There's enough donkeys that will always slowplay it, though. Readless I think I fold.

Hand 2: villain is definitely not bluffing because the pot is protected by the shortstack. He may be mistakenly value raising a worse hand, but you've defined your hand pretty well by reraising preflop and betting into two players, so unless he's a total spaz, he should be really worried with QQ/AJ here.