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Isles
02-06-2006, 01:35 PM
Could someone please tell me if there is any fault in my logic? I have set up a basic starting hand chart for 6max. It is not concrete, and the ranges are not my focus of discussion, only the percentages I am getting.

According to the following hand ranges, I should be raising roughly 15% of my hands. To clarify, BB is pos 1&2, MP 3&4, and LP 5&6. So the three percentages 5, 15, and 26 should come out to roughly 15% pre flop raises, correct? (I multiplied each by 33% then added them together.)

Starting Hands-
Raise In BBs (9) 5%- AA-99 AKs AK AQs
Raise In MP (25) 15%- AA-22 AKs-A9s AK AQ AJ KQs KJs QJs JTs
Raise In LP (45) 26%- AA-22 Axs AK-AT KQ-KT KQs-K9s QJs JTs T9s 98s 87s 76s 65s 54s

The weird thing is I am raising only 7% over 15k hands since starting it. I realize sometimes I will call a raise already, and that should drop it a little, but not by half. I could also be on a bad run of cards, so just looking for a quick check on my numbers.

Thanks

Tom1975
02-06-2006, 03:31 PM
Your percentages look off to me. Pairs, unsuited non-pairs, and suited hands all occurr with different frequencies, e.g. there are 6 ways to have AA, 4 ways to AKs, and 12 ways to have AKo. I don't think you're taking this into account. For example, for your BB hands there are 6 ways to have each of the 6 pockets pairs, for a total of 36; 4 ways to have AKs, 12 ways to have AKo, and 4 ways to have AQs. This gives you a total of 56 hands, which represents 56/1326=4.2% of all possible starting hands.

Isles
02-06-2006, 04:44 PM
Got it. I was assuming you divided the number of hands into 169 since there are 169 different starting hands.

So the way I understand it PP’s are always 6 ways, suited 4 ways, and non-suited 12 ways.

MP
6x13 = 78
9x4 = 36
3x12 = 36
150/1326 = 11.3%

LP
6x13 = 78
25x4 = 100
7x12 = 84
262/1326 = 19.7%

For my BB's it would be 4.2%
For my MP it would be 11.3%
For my LP it would be 19.7%

Divided by three for each position and totaled gives me 11.6%

Does that look better?

Thanks for the help!

uDevil
02-06-2006, 10:00 PM
I think you've done it correctly, except I only count 24 suited hands in LP, so I get a slightly different number: 19.5%. I also verified this using PokerStove.

Your raising frequency will be decreased some because you will sometimes fold a hand you would otherwise raise when someone raises in front of you. Also, the game won't always be full, so you won't be playing in the early positions (though that also means you'll be raising more in the other positions).