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optimus_prime

01-03-2007, 12:47 AM

No reads on villain, pretty standard reraise preflop.

Fold to his reraise preflop? If I call I'm pretty much playing for set value but can guarantee I'll stack him if I hit.
On the flop this is an easy fold, the only thing I'm beating is a horrendously played AK.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($25.35)
SB ($31.80)
BB ($14.65)
UTG ($57.40)
MP ($31.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.5, 2 folds, MP raises to $8, Hero calls $4.50.

Flop: ($16.35) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP bets $23.6 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $39.95

_TKO_

01-03-2007, 12:59 AM

I would call preflop by default, but maybe it's not as good as it seems... Then again, you're in position.

Suaimhnea

01-03-2007, 01:39 AM

Fold preflop.

"Stack value" isn't quite what it seems here. You're calling $4.50 (18 BB) to win (effectively) $25.35 total. Assuming you want a set to continue post-flop (most likely a shove situation anyway), you're an 8-1 dog against. At best, you're stacking 1/9 times, with the few exceptions of a AJ2 or KJ8 flop, where you may be concerned about AA and KK, the most likely holdings of your three-betting opponent. Playing deeper stacked, it may warrant a call, but you're committing a lot of only a 100BB stack here.

Suaimhnea

01-03-2007, 01:42 AM

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I would call preflop by default, but maybe it's not as good as it seems... Then again, you're in position.

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Short of flopping a set, is that really that important? An opponent's c-bet is effectively a shove anyway.

King Car

01-03-2007, 02:09 AM

I fold to the 4-bet pre.

BoozeHound

01-03-2007, 02:18 AM

You have no set value here

KEW

01-03-2007, 02:25 AM

As played fold..

If villain has AK I do not see his play as horrendous..Villain can safely assume you do not have AA-QQ(even tho if I had AA and sometime KK I would smooth call his RR)..Villain has bearly more then a PSB bet left so any C-bet commits him for his stack..Villains options are simple in the hand open shove or C/F if you bet or CRAI..