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Bort99
01-02-2007, 02:56 AM
Villain is a solid, TAGgy regular.

What if we have AA? What if villain is unknown?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $32.15
Hero: $70.85
CO: $28.25
Button: $5.70
SB: $40.15
BB: $36.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: J/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($3.1, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $2.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $11.35</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $35.85</font>, Hero folds.

Bort99
01-02-2007, 07:10 AM
Anyone?

Triggerle
01-02-2007, 07:18 AM
I have only a few hands with him but have him marked als ultra-aggressive. I would call and expect him to have a A/images/graemlins/heart.gifx/images/graemlins/heart.gif.

Against a total unknown I'm not sure but I would probably call.

TheCutter
01-02-2007, 08:36 AM
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I have only a few hands with him but have him marked als ultra-aggressive. I would call and expect him to have a A/images/graemlins/heart.gifx/images/graemlins/heart.gif.

Against a total unknown I'm not sure but I would probably call.

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How do you know who he is?

Triggerle
01-02-2007, 08:38 AM
Look at the subject

Jouster777
01-02-2007, 09:01 AM
What's villain's likely read on you?

He's agro, flop is a ragged with a FD, and you are getting 2:1. I'd put him on NFD, combo draw, a set, and maybe AJ.

With these odds I probably call but we are only a coinflip against the draws and obviously crushed by the sets so we are the dog at the moment. I think AA~KK here though since AJ is a small part of his range and I don't expect him to show up with AA.

rocco1999
01-02-2007, 09:38 AM
Mostly this is an AJ or FD,hard to put him on a set here and if he`s super-agg postflop player, this is an easy call.

Jouster777
01-02-2007, 10:21 AM
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Mostly this is an AJ or FD,hard to put him on a set here and if he`s super-agg postflop player, this is an easy call.

[/ QUOTE ]I don't think a good TAG 3-bets this with tptk a lot. What range are people putting him on here?

Skipjack
01-02-2007, 10:22 AM
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Mostly this is an AJ or FD,hard to put him on a set here and if he`s super-agg postflop player, this is an easy call.

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I agree. I think you would usually get a check raise from a set on the flop.

Jigsaws
01-02-2007, 11:18 AM
First of all: don't raise/fold. Either just call or raise/call. A good TAG is shoving anything he donked pot with. If he's really overaggro (that is, he could be shoving a non-combo draw here), I like raise/call. Otherwise I prefer calling and shoving over his turn bet.

Those who are saying this can't be a set: lol. This is exactly my line with a set.

King Spew
01-02-2007, 04:05 PM
I play against Fein alot. I would not be happy if he slapped a push on me here. This is not AJ. I fold as I only REALLY have 2 outs. I would feel as tho I was a coin flip.... or FAR behind.

Lizard King
01-02-2007, 09:34 PM
I know that Fein will push FD and OESD like this and sometimes play sets like this does that make it an easy call?