Another TPTK vs maniac

[corsakh]

Villain is even a better sample of 55/12 over 80.
His AF on the flop is 12.

I cbet quite often. He had previously pushed me out of a pot or two when I had air but I dont think he had much either. I decided go all in at the next good opportunity.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
3 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
Button: $12.85
SB: $15.45
Hero: $14.75

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
<font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $0.2</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Flop: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif ($2.2, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.55</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $3.1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $12.2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $8.75</font>.

Was this a good opportunity given the action?

[Unknown Soldier]

nh

[dankus]

This looks fine.

[corsakh]

Dude, I'm already like 8 buyins down for today on hands like this and one you saw before.. There must be something wrong... Or I just suck at hands reading.

[Unknown Soldier]

well in this example you dont, your read is that he's a maniac, K8 is probably in his range, plus theres a good chance he could be bluffing

[Shaddux]

I call minraise and lead turn.

[Unknown Soldier]

why? You might aswell get it in now, why add another card to the equation?

[Shaddux]

Since he's a maniac, he is more likely to have air than a weaker K IMO. Getting AI here is probably fine, but I think a crAI on turn is better.

[Unknown Soldier]

too fancy and unecessary, whenever you can keep things simple it's usually better to do so

[Shaddux]

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too fancy and unecessary

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? It's the basic stack-a-donk line

[dankus]

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too fancy and unecessary

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? It's the basic stack-a-donk line

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Didn't he stack him this way?

[Shaddux]

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too fancy and unecessary

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? It's the basic stack-a-donk line

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Didn't he stack him this way?

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obv...but usually it is the other way around

the fact that OP lost is irrelevent. Both lines suggested (Unknown's and mine) result in him losing anyways.

[dankus]

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too fancy and unecessary

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? It's the basic stack-a-donk line

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Didn't he stack him this way?

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obv...but usually it is the other way around

the fact that OP lost is irrelevent. Both lines suggested (Unknown's and mine) result in him losing anyways.

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The way the hand is played and the way the opponent has been described, I would feel more comfortable with the hand getting it on the flop. There are eighteen cards that, if they came, would make it difficult for me to check raise all-in on the turn.

By simply calling, I'm giving the opponent the opportunity to hit a card that could improve his hand. At this point, I'm fairly confident in my hand, and I would be willing to raise him all in on the flop, to get the opponent to make the incorrect choice.

[Shaddux]

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to get the opponent to make the incorrect choice

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It seemed to me like 3betting AI would force him to make the correct choice more often than the incorrect choice. That was the only reason i suggested the stackadonk on the turn.

If you disagree, then getting it AI on the flop is probably the best.

[corsakh]

Ok, say I had no read. The sample is too small. Against an unknown loose aggressive player in a 3 handed game is this a good line to take?

[corsakh]

I've noticed at this level players are much more inclined to call 3bets on the flop rather than a turn lead after a reraise.