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Manchild84

01-01-2007, 07:36 PM

I'm trying to be more aggressive on my draws... thoughts?
I'm wondering if I should of called instead pushing after the b/3b..
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($8.40)
MP ($67.40)
CO ($34.60)
Button ($37.20)
SB ($24.75)
Hero ($69.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50, UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50.

Flop: ($3.75) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $3, UTG folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls $2.

Turn: ($9.75) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $11, Hero raises to $25, SB calls $10 (All-In).

River: ($55.75) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $55.75

Sean Fraley

01-01-2007, 07:54 PM

Fold the flop. You have three opponents to act after you, and while this time you folded all of them, normally you wouldn't be so lucky, and for that reason you really can't expect to get a free card out of this either.

When SB bets out on the turn, you need to realize that he has no intention of giving this hand up. You should have just called the $1 bet on the turn, and left it at that.

So, which did villain have AA, KK, QQ, 77, or 88?

shoxbb6

01-01-2007, 08:16 PM

Folding the flop is horrible here. Raising is meh. I'd rather call and try to get some overcalls here.
On the turns, definitely just call the bet as you're getting odds. Push is terrible because you have 0 fold equity here after the min 3bet.

cuQa

01-01-2007, 08:28 PM

lol.. what are you doing at the turn?!? That is sick. I can follow the raise because you might sometimes have a good fold equity vs. some opponents but that you dont give up your semi-bluff after the 3-bet.. :/

your pot equity is between 30-35% at the turn.. 0 Fold Equity .. your goal should not be pushing all your money in ^^

Chomp

01-01-2007, 08:29 PM

I'd like the flop raise a lot HU. But here, with so many players behind, meh, I'm not sure. And if I were to raise it I'd make it maybe 5 or 6.

On turn, I'd let this idiot's stupid betting be his downfall and just call. These donk-minbets OOP are SOOOOOOOO infuriating but I am starting to think the way to punish them is to accept the "free" card they offer us rather than trying to push villain off his hand.

I guess your turn bet is also for value & deception to an extent as you have 15 outs, so I guess you are pricing yourself in with a 6 bet into the $10 pot if he calls*. But I'd still not make the bet for fear of the re-raise (as happened) and to seriously punish set-boy if we hit as described above. IMO he'll likely call a shove if we hit an out.

*unless my sums are off??

Sean Fraley

01-01-2007, 08:41 PM

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Folding the flop is horrible here.

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My bad, I misread the pot size. I would have called, but not raised.

Manchild84

01-01-2007, 09:26 PM

OK. Thanks for the help.. I guess I was focusing too much on being aggressive that I didn't stop to think that I had zero Fold Equity there...