**Official uNL Microbrew thread: January (nc)** [Archive]

tehDiceman

01-01-2007, 07:43 AM

this is a dead serious post. how the FU** do you win against these freaking idiots. he took over 2 dollars from me all because he would minraise push back at me every cbet, suckout on me, or i just wouldnt hit my hand by the river. take this hand for example. i figured him for an 8, the only way someone would be calling a bunch of bets on this board, that or a flush draw. the river came, i missed, then called him down because i wanted to see his 8. much to my surprise. WTF mates? seriously, how am i down against players like this?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($5.05)
CO ($4.92)
Button ($5.99)
SB ($6.55)
BB ($2.41)
UTG ($5.42)
UTG+1 ($5.08)
MP1 ($4.41)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.1, 1 fold, Button calls $0.10, 1 fold, BB calls $0.08, UTG+1 calls $0.08.

Flop: ($0.41) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.36, Button calls $0.36, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($1.13) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.56, Button calls $0.56.

River: ($2.25) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.56, Hero calls $0.56.

Final Pot: $3.37

Results below:
Hero has Qs Js (one pair, eights).
Button has Ts Ac (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Button wins $3.37.

he had ZERO draws, very few outs, etc, etc. this was the last hand i played with him, i just gave up.

standard win 50 cents then lose 2 dollar session. i just wasted an hour tryin to make it back.

just popped KQ vs this idiot, i flop the gutshot straight draw, cbet, minraised, called, then the three flush hits, i check just in case, he checks behind, a blank comes out, i check again figuring he was going to raise any bet i made since he had the flush now and he was a passive idiot. he checks behind and turns over top two. seriously give me a fu**ing break. make that down 4 dollars. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

munkey

01-01-2007, 08:06 AM

Happy New year all

May the sklansky bux ->> real bux.

Nice graph kaz - was it u that went to the raptordurrpad?
Did u give a trip report?

corsakh

01-01-2007, 08:23 AM

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
9 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
Hero: $9.86
UTG+1: $1.85
MP1: $7.56
MP2: $3.55
MP3: $8.65
CO: $18.64
Button: $11
SB: $1.70
BB: $2

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($0.6, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.45, 5 folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.45 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $0.6

corsakh

01-01-2007, 08:33 AM

Diceman, pardon my ignorance, but wth are you second barrelling OOP on a paired board with a non-nut flush draw into a calling station for?!

Thats one thing... but I'm completely losty on the river... what hands did you think you beat, 56o?

Bort99

01-01-2007, 08:37 AM

You're going to get further than that in a year.

kitaristi0

01-01-2007, 08:40 AM

[ QUOTE ]
how am i down against players like this?

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[ QUOTE ]
River: ($2.25) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.56, Hero calls $0.56.

[/ QUOTE ]

I wonder.

Triggerle

01-01-2007, 09:04 AM

My break-even December
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/749/graph1fh3.jpg

Some more random fun stats from this month.
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3285/handscf0.gif

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1854/kkiv7.gif

Sir Winalot

01-01-2007, 09:17 AM

[ QUOTE ]
the river came, i missed, then called him down because i wanted to see his 8.

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Must be a damn pretty 8 then, huh?

matrix

01-01-2007, 11:43 AM

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6700/dec06kr1.png (http://imageshack.us)

My December.

a little 100NL - mostly 50NL 6max/FR tho I think I might give FR a miss for a while.

50NL 6 max only this month after a 16 buyin dowswing on the FR tables...

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4706/dec066mem5.png (http://imageshack.us)

Imrahil

01-01-2007, 11:52 AM

I haven't played for like a week because I've been busy building a new computer. Starting today I'm going to play enough to earn about 130 FPP a day. After 31 days I should be a Gold Star member.

Mikka

01-01-2007, 12:14 PM

Happy New Year to everybody. GL on the tables for 2007

Was going to play 40k hands in December, but then the party reload mania got me and i stopped playing Stars for a while. All NL50 fullring. Could be better, but ok for my first real month on NL50.

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/9797/dezrh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Dans Full

01-01-2007, 12:15 PM

How do I not call this ai bet. I have the 3rd nuts. Stupid 2 outer hits on the river. What a way to start the new year.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($9.05)
CO ($2.75)
Button ($7.90)
SB ($14.75)
Hero ($13.85)
UTG ($6.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $0.10, MP raises to $0.2, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.10, UTG calls $0.10.

Flop: ($0.80) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets $8.85 (All-In), SB folds, Hero calls $8.85, UTG folds.

Turn: ($18.50) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($18.50) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $18.50

Results below:
Hero has Ac 5h (three of a kind, fives).
MP has Kd Kc (full house, kings full of fives).
Outcome: MP wins $18.50.

jonyy6788

01-01-2007, 12:19 PM

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How do I not call this ai bet. I have the 3rd nuts. Stupid 2 outer hits on the river. What a way to start the new year.

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Fold preflop??????? Also, it happens...just be glad you got it in ahead.

Jihad

01-01-2007, 12:34 PM

This really has to [censored] stop. I'm only a recreational player with a time consuming job, so downies seem to last longer for me, but this is [censored]. I'm in the middle of a 10 BI downy and my VERY FIRST [censored] HAND OF THE NEW YEAR, and I couldn't make this [censored] up, I get AA in the BB and say hello to my new 11 BI downy. [censored] you full tilt they play so [censored] bad. My god damn girlfriend is up like 4K at 100's in 2 months and I somehow can't beat 50's after I've cashed out like 15K in my lifetime from this stupid [censored] game? [censored] this. [censored] FIRST [censored] HAND OF THE [censored] NEW YEAR.

Jigsaws

01-01-2007, 01:14 PM

Whoa... dude. Chill. Have sex with your girlfriend. Then have her sweat you while playing for a while. (No, not both at once.)

Jihad

01-01-2007, 02:00 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Whoa... dude. Chill. Have sex with your girlfriend. Then have her sweat you while playing for a while. (No, not both at once.)

[/ QUOTE ]I'm better than her and play a different style than her, sweating would be a joke.

Messiahkid

01-01-2007, 02:52 PM

Here's to moving from .5/1 to 5/10 in a year and making > $100k.

GL ALL.

Waingro

01-01-2007, 03:45 PM

I seem to have made a new years´s resolution. Everytime my aces get cracked I call villain fish in the chat. It seems to tilt them no end. Except the one hand where I inexplicably failed to get it all in, that one earned villain a "nh".

tufat23

01-01-2007, 04:01 PM

i think i need a coach for uNL. cant beat it

http://lh4.google.com/_3o0VGajcnDQ/RZlYIgxkS2I/AAAAAAAAAAM/zssGJEEDll4/s1600/untitled.JPG

GrandmaStabone

01-01-2007, 05:50 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
how am i down against players like this?

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River: ($2.25) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.56, Hero calls $0.56.

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I wonder.

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This is a standard river call to see the eight.

scottc25

01-01-2007, 06:39 PM

Worst month I have ever had. Couple that with lots of lost $$$ in PCA attempts and it was really bad. My goal was 10k hands. Well I was WAY short of that goal. A lot less is in store for me in January I assume. Going to Tunica to play cash games for a week or so.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o95/scottc2525/december-1.jpg

Unknown Soldier

01-01-2007, 06:43 PM

281 hands of 50NL: profit $1

ship it!

Messiahkid

01-01-2007, 06:49 PM

FTP Down, ship $0.

Unknown Soldier

01-01-2007, 07:01 PM

you see the game today messiah? /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Quester

01-01-2007, 07:56 PM

Your Kings full is no good sir, for I always spike my 1-outers on the river!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($16.35)
UTG ($10)
MP ($8.50)
CO ($9.85)
Hero ($9.65)
SB ($9.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, CO raises to $0.4, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds, MP folds.

Flop: ($1.05) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
CO bets $0.8, Hero calls $0.80.

Turn: ($2.65) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
CO bets $2, Hero raises to $5, CO raises to $8.65, Hero calls $3.45 (All-In).

River: ($19.75) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $19.75

CO has Kd Kc (full house, kings full of tens).
Hero has Td Tc (four of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $19.55. CO wins $0.20.

Messiahkid

01-01-2007, 08:47 PM

[ QUOTE ]
you see the game today messiah? /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, BS deflection and a beautiful goal. Chelsea will now be within 4 pts with a win.

tehDiceman

01-01-2007, 09:41 PM

help a shark, kick a fish in the head.

that is all.

kaz2107

01-01-2007, 09:43 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Happy New year all

May the sklansky bux ->> real bux.

Nice graph kaz - was it u that went to the raptordurrpad?
Did u give a trip report?

[/ QUOTE ]
i went to dallas but didnt get to go to tha rapdurrrr pad /images/graemlins/frown.gif they were gone while i was there. i stayed with 3 other ship it holla ballas tho in there sick house. i stayed with bonafone, duece2high, and travestyfund.

never got around to an official trip report because im have been busy with family and friends back home.

basically tho we partied, played xbox360, i watched them grind, and just chilled out. it was a [censored] sick trip and i will deff be goin out there again some time in tha near future and will deff b visiting the rapdurrrr crib. i deff need to make it a point to travel and visit more 2p2ers. it is so fun, so good for my game, and + life EV. n e good suggestions?

Unknown Soldier

01-01-2007, 10:07 PM

according to PT over the last 600 hands I've only played 1 from utg. I think somethings gone wrong there /images/graemlins/confused.gif

oh yeah, where do you get those graphs from? PT? Can't find where you do it

Jigsaws

01-01-2007, 10:16 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I'm better than her and play a different style than her, sweating would be a joke.

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Maybe. Apparently she does a better job of not tilting, though. Sweating does not have to be about strategy advice, just having her there to make you stop playing could help. That is: she can probably tell very well when you are starting to tilt, seeing as how she should know you pretty well.

But if you really don't want her there, just go with the sex. It helps. Barry Greenstein even said so! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

kaz2107

01-01-2007, 10:18 PM

[ QUOTE ]
according to PT over the last 600 hands I've only played 1 from utg. I think somethings gone wrong there /images/graemlins/confused.gif

oh yeah, where do you get those graphs from? PT? Can't find where you do it

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i think it is pokergrapher.com if not tho google poker grapher and u will deff find it. and as utg hands go u prolly r runny card dead and also PLAYING WELL /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Unknown Soldier

01-01-2007, 10:27 PM

sites coming soon apparantly

jonyy6788

01-02-2007, 12:07 AM

Sweet start to the year....played very good poker, but KK<AA, lost over 2 buyins with sets. Variance sucks!

http://photos-879.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v56/63/84/123700076/n123700076_30256879_5532.jpg

tehDiceman

01-02-2007, 12:21 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Sweet start to the year....played very good poker, but KK<AA, lost over 2 buyins with sets. Variance sucks!

http://photos-879.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v56/63/84/123700076/n123700076_30256879_5532.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

i looked at that graph and thought "OMG, how did he get my graph"?. then i realized that isnt my graph, mine just stops at the lowest point. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

barryc83

01-02-2007, 12:31 AM

This was gonna be my last orbit of the night. I stopped immediately after this hand. In 12k hands I have been set over set 3 times and I've never had the higher set. Thanks Lee. Limp/calling weak/tight vaginas, all of you!

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $28.60
UTG+1: $53.80
CO: $116.40
Hero: $77.90
SB: $29
BB: $142.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
2 folds, CO calls, Hero raises to $2.5, SB calls, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($8, 3 players)
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $6, SB raises to $12, CO raises to $25, Hero raises all-in $75.4, SB calls all-in $14.5, CO calls.

Turn: Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($185.3, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $87.5, Sidepot 1: $97.8)

River: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif ($185.3, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $87.5, Sidepot 1: $97.8)

Results:
Final pot: $185.3
CO showed 8h 8d
SB mucks Ah Ad

Check_The_Nuts

01-02-2007, 01:01 AM

lol SB play in that hand is terrible.

Mistakes I've made at the poker table lately:

Check raising a super scary board with a set. Terrible idea, the guy with TPTK put me on the nuts (A straight). Great.

Playing slightly too loose versus a very aggro LAG (30/20/4, he was decent). I stacked him for 200BB, but he got the better of me too often. I reraised slightly too loose versus him. I cbet too often (he played back WAY too often). Oh, I didn't call enough preflop with marginal hands ahead of his range.

If your ever 200BB deep with other people, raise all pairs preflop, always. I learned this the hard way when raising a set on a AQ5 board. Crappy player who led played hands like 92o etc. Terrible play by me.

Things i did well lately:

Probably my biggest feat, I dropped either 50 or 75 bucks in about 15 minutes at a 25NL table. It was somewhat sick, although the hands could have been partly avoided. I shoved a flush draw multiway when I thought I had a lot of fold equity - oops hi top set. I got it in with a guy who had 12 outs on the flop, he hit gg two pair. 40/1/whatever stacked me when he hit a set and minraised a drawy flop. I should probably post that hand. I think I misunderstood table dynamics at the time, which i'm trying to get a handle on. At any rate, I didn't tilt, which was amazing. I made it back in like 40 minutes, and 25 or 30 was from that very table. They all left, which sucks cause the table was hugely fishy.

I made a really nice double barrell against a loose/bad opponent. Reads are nice. I mostly adjusted to table conditions in that hand IMO.

I bluffed that decent lag off a crappy pair, when I backed into 12-15 outs on the turn. He folded, said he had the best hand. It was nice, helped me stack him later when he hit TP-ten kicker.

Oh, I outplayed the [censored] out of a bad lag. He had to slow down because I would often outplay him with bluffs, or he'd get ensared in a hand when I had a doozy. He also tended to bluff into a calling station (me). I read hands better than him. Poor bugger.

humm maybe I'll make a blog to note all the things I did poorly at the table on a certain day. Probably be a decent idea. Meh, effort, work...

corsakh

01-02-2007, 01:07 AM

Yahooo!!!!!!!!!! My AK dodged A9!!!!! Finally!!

RAHZero

01-02-2007, 01:36 AM

Not a bad beginning to 2007. Started down big without losing any huge hands, just was ridiculously cold decked, couldn't hit anything. Then things started turning around, I got paid off on a couple sets, played one AQ hand pretty well multiway to win a big pot, and profited.

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/9638/jan1jt2.jpg

jonyy6788

01-02-2007, 01:36 AM

Apparently Lee changed the RNG along with the VIP program....I've never run so hot and so damn cold in my life. KK<AA for 2nd time tonight, QQ<JJ, and then me flopping monsters/hitting monsters left/right. I am, however, happy with the way I played.

http://photos-998.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v56/63/84/123700076/n123700076_30256998_6235.jpg

tehDiceman

01-02-2007, 01:48 AM

lost a buyin on new years day, made .36 cents back today. dont know if im happy or sad. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

corsakh

01-02-2007, 02:02 AM

Warning! Ahtung!

Party Poker, 10NL
Table 126203.
Deepstack megafish.

Hurry!

corsakh

01-02-2007, 02:05 AM

BTW, is it possible to transfer funds from one party account to another?

Check_The_Nuts

01-02-2007, 02:37 AM

Obviously super-standard:

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $8.30
CO: $62.30
Button: $35.40
SB: $25.20
Hero: $25.00

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG calls, CO raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 7/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($3.15, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $1.5, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Turn: 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($6.15, 2 players)
Hero bets $4, CO raises to $10, Hero raises all-in $18.5, CO folds.
Uncalled bets: $8.5 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $26.15

corsakh

01-02-2007, 02:42 AM

lol

Oranzith

01-02-2007, 02:54 AM

this kind of stuff ruins sessions. the 2 dollar turn was retarded, yes, but i was making sure I got him AI on the river. last (well first) time i ever try that

Full Tilt Poker
$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
5 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

Stack Sizes
UTG: $6.75
Hero (MP): $16.55
CO: $9.30
BTN: $21.45
SB: $11.15

Preflop: 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif ($0.15, 5 players)
Hero raises to $0.40, CO calls $0.40, BTN folds, SB folds, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($1.25, 3 players)
UTG bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2, CO folds, UTG calls $1.25

Turn: Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif [5http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif] ($5.25, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2, UTG calls $2

River: Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif [9/images/graemlins/spade.gif] ($9.25, 2 players)
UTG bets all in for $2.45, Hero calls $2.45

Results:
UTG had Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (a straight, Queen high) and won $13.15
Hero had 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (three of a kind, Eights)
Final Pot: $13.15 ($1.00 rake)

corsakh

01-02-2007, 03:01 AM

Yes!!! I leveled with the fish! 1 - 1. He still has about 4 stacks to go /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Oranzith

01-02-2007, 03:09 AM

im a donk 3 handed

Full Tilt Poker
$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
3 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

Stack Sizes
SB: $14.4
Hero (BB): $10.5
BTN: $23.60

Preflop: 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif ($0.15, 3 players)
BTN folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.20

Flop: 9http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif ($0.6, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $3, SB calls $2

Turn: 9http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif [3/images/graemlins/spade.gif] ($6.6, 2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero raises all in to $7.30, SB calls $4.30

River: 9http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif [8/images/graemlins/heart.gif] ($21.2, 2 players)
No action

Results:
SB had 6http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (a straight, Nine high) and won $20.70
Hero had 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (two pair, Nines and Eights)
Final Pot: $20.70 ($0.50 rake)

Oranzith

01-02-2007, 03:17 AM

oh last 2 hands were the same person, and i tilted my ass off to him. sigh.

shoxbb6

01-02-2007, 03:55 AM

Your bet sizing on the 88 hand is horrible.

Oranzith

01-02-2007, 04:23 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Your bet sizing on the 88 hand is horrible.

[/ QUOTE ]

Which streets? obviously the turn. however the turn 2 dollar bet was meant to guarantee him AI, as he had about 4.5 left, and would be overtly pot committed. admittedly that was the first time i have actually tried that, and it did let him draw. bbbbbbbbbad.

would you have raised bigger on the flop? to 4? did you look at this stack size? its 7

Triggerle

01-02-2007, 04:32 AM

Flop raise should be 3 or more, shove turn as the board now shows another draw.

You need to get him all-in on the turn.

Oranzith

01-02-2007, 04:42 AM

i suck

tehDiceman

01-02-2007, 06:57 AM

yea, a single hand or two just ruins a session. my first hand of my most recent 45 minute session i have JJ in BB. of course a Q hits the flop and i throw a little value bet just in case. turn who knows but i get it all in with a shortstack. duh he has QQ.

made another stupid move later with a 10-K board, villian had to have an ace but was complaining about rake which was what i thought a strange way to say dont bet. i value bet him on the river again when i could have seen for free.

the rest of the session i took down tons of pots, didnt make up for the two junk hands though. down another 2 dollars = 2007 sucks.

jonyy6788

01-02-2007, 01:55 PM

The unbelievable heater/cooler continues....

AA<<<KK preflop, 77 no goot on flop 766 in $135 pot 3 ways (quads obv), tpgk +FD<tptk, OESD+over<hi card ace (he had a gutshot, lol)

All that and I'm only down $89 today, what a crock!

Imrahil

01-02-2007, 02:00 PM

What a great session:

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/8823/50nlbadddza3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($52.95)
Button ($52.10)
SB ($79.65)
Hero ($50)
UTG ($13)
MP ($90.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG raises to $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6, UTG calls $5, CO calls $5, Button folds.

Flop: ($19.25) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $9, UTG calls $7 (All-In), CO raises to $46.95, Hero calls $35 (All-In).

Turn: ($117.20) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($117.20) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $117.20

Results in white below: 
Hero has Jh Jd (two pair, jacks and twos).
UTG has Qh Kd (one pair, twos).
CO has 9h 9d (full house, nines full of twos).
Outcome: CO wins $117.20. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($35.60)
CO ($46.75)
Button ($15)
SB ($93)
BB ($46)
Hero ($90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Hero raises to $2, MP calls $2, 4 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.5, MP raises to $7, Hero raises to $46, MP calls $26.60 (All-In).

Turn: ($84.35) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($84.35) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $84.35

Results in white below: 
Hero has Qc Qh (two pair, queens and sixes).
MP has Ad 5h (two pair, aces and sixes).
Outcome: MP wins $71.95. Hero wins $12.40. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($28.95)
MP ($50.05)
CO ($45.25)
Hero ($66)
SB ($54.25)
BB ($29)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3.5, 2 folds, UTG folds, CO calls $3.

Flop: ($8.25) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
CO bets $3, Hero raises to $13, CO raises to $23, Hero raises to $62.5, CO calls $18.75 (All-In).

Turn: ($112.50) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($112.50) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $112.50

Results in white below: 
CO has Kc Qc (flush, king high).
Hero has Ad Ac (two pair, aces and fours).
Outcome: CO wins $91.75. Hero wins $20.75. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($17.15)
Hero ($56.30)
BB ($49.65)
UTG ($60.10)
MP ($74.45)
CO ($37.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, CO folds, Button calls $3.

Flop: ($8) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $4, Button calls $4.

Turn: ($16) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $10, Button calls $9.65 (All-In).

River: ($35.65) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $35.65

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kd As (two pair, aces and queens).
Button has Qh 4h (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: Button wins $35.30. Hero wins $0.35.

jonyy6788

01-02-2007, 02:31 PM

What are you hoping to accomplish with the AA there? I probably just call hoping to hit the 4th club. There's no real need to "protect" your hand, you have the highest FD and you probably get pushed back at by sets/made flushes. In the QQ hand I think villain had odds to call your all-in with over+FD. If you're gonna raise UTG to $6 I just go all-in preflop or raise it to $13, I don't like having people along for the ride when I got JJ against a shorty. I would probably just call his minraise though, he wont fold any two facecards (in which case you're tossing) and he obv. won't fold QQ-AA in which you're WB. I look to call his $1 and get in on flop w/out facecard.

Imrahil

01-02-2007, 02:40 PM

[ QUOTE ]
What are you hoping to accomplish with the AA there? I probably just call hoping to hit the 4th club. There's no real need to "protect" your hand, you have the highest FD and you probably get pushed back at by sets/made flushes. In the QQ hand I think villain had odds to call your all-in with over+FD. If you're gonna raise UTG to $6 I just go all-in preflop or raise it to $13, I don't like having people along for the ride when I got JJ against a shorty. I would probably just call his minraise though, he wont fold any two facecards (in which case you're tossing) and he obv. won't fold QQ-AA in which you're WB. I look to call his $1 and get in on flop w/out facecard.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow that's horrible advice.

scottc25

01-02-2007, 02:49 PM

Only if I could run this well all month...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o95/scottc2525/jan2.jpg

jonyy6788

01-02-2007, 02:51 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What are you hoping to accomplish with the AA there? I probably just call hoping to hit the 4th club. There's no real need to "protect" your hand, you have the highest FD and you probably get pushed back at by sets/made flushes. In the QQ hand I think villain had odds to call your all-in with over+FD. If you're gonna raise UTG to $6 I just go all-in preflop or raise it to $13, I don't like having people along for the ride when I got JJ against a shorty. I would probably just call his minraise though, he wont fold any two facecards (in which case you're tossing) and he obv. won't fold QQ-AA in which you're WB. I look to call his $1 and get in on flop w/out facecard.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow that's horrible advice.

[/ QUOTE ]

You're right, that was a horrible post by me. I need to make a correction: villain was ahead with A5.

netstorm

01-02-2007, 02:54 PM

Finally got out of my downswing last month, and finished january up $1500 + 600 in bonus. I now have a $3500 roll, and am finally starting to feel at home in $100nl. Up 8 buyins there, and loving it. I hope my microNL days are over now! =) No offense /images/graemlins/smile.gif

The party reloads sure have helped me.

Oh, and UB software+table selection sucks, huge!

Party FTW!

RAHZero

01-02-2007, 03:02 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Finally got out of my downswing last month, and finished january up $1500 + 600 in bonus.

[/ QUOTE ]

Time machine??? By the way, I hate you Europeans, I want Party back!

Imrahil

01-02-2007, 03:26 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What are you hoping to accomplish with the AA there? I probably just call hoping to hit the 4th club. There's no real need to "protect" your hand, you have the highest FD and you probably get pushed back at by sets/made flushes. In the QQ hand I think villain had odds to call your all-in with over+FD. If you're gonna raise UTG to $6 I just go all-in preflop or raise it to $13, I don't like having people along for the ride when I got JJ against a shorty. I would probably just call his minraise though, he wont fold any two facecards (in which case you're tossing) and he obv. won't fold QQ-AA in which you're WB. I look to call his $1 and get in on flop w/out facecard.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow that's horrible advice.

[/ QUOTE ]

You're right, that was a horrible post by me. I need to make a correction: villain was ahead with A5.

[/ QUOTE ]

But doesn it make sense to just push over villain's min-raise PF? Why make such a large raise to $13? If I raise to $6 and villain pushes then I can isolate him if anyone calls but to make such a large isolation play after he just minraises is bad I think. Oh, and also just calling the minraise with JJ after a few people call is really really bad.

jonyy6788

01-02-2007, 03:33 PM

I think the entire forum (including myself--I'm almost plugged the leak) needs to stop overplaying overpairs. Winrates will increase dramatically.

sputum

01-02-2007, 03:37 PM

Had a little go at NL25
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/2835/oopsak2.jpg

Highlight:
Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
10 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $66.50
UTG+1: $40.75
UTG+2: $89.65
MP1: $21.70
MP2: $22.80
MP3: $21.85
CO: $28.25
me: $24.60
SB: $27.75
BB: $24.25

Pre-flop: (10 players) me is Button with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG calls, 5 folds, CO raises to $0.5, me raises to $2.5, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds, CO calls.

Flop: 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($7.9, 3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, me bets $5, BB folds, CO calls.

Turn: 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($17.9, 2 players)
CO checks, me bets $10, CO calls.

River: 6/images/graemlins/club.gif ($37.9, 2 players)
CO bets $3.5, me raises all-in $7.1, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: $52.1
me shows QH QC 
CO shows 6H 6D 

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
10 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $39.55
UTG+1: $24.10
UTG+2: $8.20
MP1: $27.75
MP2: $35.50
me: $25.90
CO: $23.85
Button: $24.70
SB: $57.80
BB: $4.95

Pre-flop: (10 players) me is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, me calls, 2 folds, SB raises to $1, 2 folds, me calls.

Flop: K/images/graemlins/club.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($2.5, 2 players)
SB checks, me bets $3, SB calls.

Turn: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($8.5, 2 players)
SB checks, me bets $8, SB raises to $16, me calls.

River: 5/images/graemlins/club.gif ($40.5, 2 players)
SB is all-in $37.65, me calls all-in $5.75.
Uncalled bets: $31.9 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $52
SB shows 10C KS 
me shows AS KD 

So time for a little PLO action. $336 ship it /images/graemlins/cool.gif
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/2244/twojan2007wh3.jpg

Imrahil

01-02-2007, 03:48 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I think the entire forum (including myself--I'm almost plugged the leak) needs to stop overplaying overpairs. Winrates will increase dramatically.

[/ QUOTE ]

I took like a 1 week break so I'm sorta rusty. I think once I start playing again I'll be able to fold overpairs. But sometimes you don't have much info to know whether your OP is good or not.

jonyy6788

01-02-2007, 03:50 PM

If you're facing unknowns, then play more cautiously. Pot control is your friend.

JoshK

01-02-2007, 03:59 PM

January is going awesome thus far

http://www.joshkelsey.com/1-2-07.JPG

Cheers,

JoshK

derosnec

01-02-2007, 04:03 PM

and I thought I was decent at foosball. Check out this guy: video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=MgCZjtJMjK4)

2007 will be the year I master foosball

JoshK

01-02-2007, 04:12 PM

[ QUOTE ]
and I thought I was decent at foosball. Check out this guy: video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=MgCZjtJMjK4)

2007 will be the year I master foosball

[/ QUOTE ]

That is awesome.

scottc25

01-02-2007, 04:30 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I think the entire forum (including myself--I'm almost plugged the leak) needs to stop overplaying overpairs. Winrates will increase dramatically.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed. Although I had a lucky December where I was dealt AA 15 times. Won 14 hands and chopped a pot vs another AA.

RAHZero

01-02-2007, 04:34 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I think the entire forum (including myself--I'm almost plugged the leak) needs to stop overplaying overpairs. Winrates will increase dramatically.

[/ QUOTE ]

I disagree. I think we should start overplaying our overpairs and hitting our two-outers. Kinda like villain did here:

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($5.40)
Hero ($49.50)
BB ($38.25)
UTG ($59.60)
MP ($34.95)
CO ($69.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG raises to $1.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($5.25) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $4.6, BB folds, UTG raises to $14, Hero raises to $29.6, UTG raises to $57.85 (all-in), Hero calls $47.45 (all-in).

Turn: ($100.75) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

River: ($100.75) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $100.75

Results in white below: 
Hero has 3c 3d (full house, threes full of sixes).
UTG has Kc Kh (full house, kings full of sixes).
Outcome: UTG wins $100.75. 

Somehow I'm still up today, mostly thanks to stacking a donk for 120 BBs with a flopped boat.

grouchie

01-02-2007, 04:36 PM

The month was going good until...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

Button ($7.27)
SB ($0.82)
BB ($4.69)
UTG ($5.47)
Hero ($4.27)
CO ($0.77)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.1, CO calls $0.10, Button raises to $7.27, 2 folds, Hero calls $4.17 (All-In), CO calls $0.67 (All-In).

Flop: ($12.34) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($12.34) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($12.34) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $12.34

Hero has As Ad (one pair, aces).
CO has 5s Ks (one pair, fives).
Button has Jd Jh (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: Button wins $12.34.

EMc

01-02-2007, 05:04 PM

I need to start playing again.

DeuceSeven

01-02-2007, 07:02 PM

I believe this is the definition of a cooler.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $0
UTG+1: $15.25
CO: $19.65
Button: $9.75
SB: $13.10
Hero: $13.65

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB raises to $0.4, Hero raises to $1.5, CO folds, SB calls.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($3.1, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB raises to $5, Hero raises all-in $12.15, SB calls all-in $6.6.
Uncalled bets: $0.55 returned to Hero.

Turn: 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($26.85, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $26.3, Sidepot 1: $0.55)

River: T/images/graemlins/club.gif ($26.85, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $26.3, Sidepot 1: $0.55)

Results:
Final pot: $26.85
SB showed Ac Ah
Hero showed Ks Kc

Then right after I go on a sick heater. I get AQ and double up from .50 to 1.00. Then I get AA with a full $10 stack, a solid player raises from early position, I'm in the BB I type "screw it" and shove all in, he calls me with 88. Then in a blind war my Q4 flops trips and rivers quads and I get a guy to put his hole stack in with Qs full. Then I raise with 44, flop a set and get a guys stack who flopped a pair of Aces with AQ. I also get KK 3 more times in 40 hands and take down the flop preflop once, and after the flop twice.

DeuceSeven

01-02-2007, 07:21 PM

Here's the graph of my session today.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/sc03979/jan2session.jpg

evilempire

01-02-2007, 08:16 PM

I'm at an extremely profitable table. I just can't win.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($10.05)
CO ($8.20)
Button ($54.55)
Hero ($34.05)
BB ($25)
UTG ($7)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $1.75, Hero calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.50) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $3.5, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $6.50.

Turn: ($23.50) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $22.3 (All-In), BB calls $13.25 (All-In).

River: ($59.05) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $59.05

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ah Jd (two pair, aces and queens).
BB has 7c Qc (full house, queens full of sevens).
Outcome: BB wins $50. Hero wins $9.05. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($32.65)
UTG ($25.90)
MP ($46.10)
Hero ($26.25)
Button ($63.95)
SB ($18.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $0.5, Hero raises to $1.5, 2 folds, BB calls $1.25, MP calls $1.

Flop: ($4.60) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB bets $6, MP calls $6, Hero raises to $24.75, BB calls $18.75, MP folds.

Turn: ($60.10) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

River: ($60.10) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $60.10

Results in white below: 
BB has Ah Ks (flush, ace high).
Hero has Ac Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: BB wins $60.10.

barryc83

01-03-2007, 12:06 AM

This is me tilting...my winrate would be at least doubled if I could avoid doing stuff like this, prolly more than double. Seriously take a guess what this guy has, he took like 25 seconds to call too. I'm still trying to figure out which one of us is the bigger fish.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $56.95
UTG+1: $69
CO: $28.20
Button: $50
SB: $53.05
Hero: $49.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $1.5, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero raises to $6, UTG+1 calls, Button folds.

Flop: 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($13.75, 2 players)
Hero bets $9, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 8/images/graemlins/club.gif ($31.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $7.5, Hero raises all-in $34.75, UTG+1 calls.

River: 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($101.25, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $101.25)

Results:
Final pot: $101.25
Hero showed Ac Kh
UTG+1 mucks Qs Ks

corsakh

01-03-2007, 12:38 AM

I am playing a guy on party with 100/94 stats. I'll post some hands later /images/graemlins/smile.gif

michaelantoi

01-03-2007, 01:13 AM

over how many hands?

corsakh

01-03-2007, 01:14 AM

He lasted for about 80 I think.

the machine

01-03-2007, 01:59 AM

hey EMC since my AA schooled your KK ill show you what to do to reverse this problem.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $76.55
UTG+1: $78.30
Hero: $163.50
Button: $179.05
SB: $100.50
BB: $27.30

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, Button folds, SB raises to $15, BB folds, Hero raises all-in $163.5, SB calls all-in $85.5.
Uncalled bets: $63 returned to Hero.

Flop: 8/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($102.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $202)

Turn: 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($102.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $202)

River: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($102.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $202)

Results:
Final pot: $202.5
Hero showed Kh Kc
SB showed Ah As

i am teh luckbox deluxe

and ship it crucial

jonyy6788

01-03-2007, 02:30 AM

Made a 40 min. vid 2 tabling NL506max on Stars. It's uploading right now, will post in the morning! Nothing too exciting, but I think it is valuable.

corsakh

01-03-2007, 02:38 AM

Nice... How far is the morning?
Could you crosspost the links here?

jonyy6788

01-03-2007, 02:46 AM

It should be uploaded within 1hr 20mins (2amCST). I'll stay up and watch a movie instead of going to bed and then I'll post it.

corsakh

01-03-2007, 02:55 AM

Great. Thanks.

tehDiceman

01-03-2007, 03:00 AM

so january has not gone so well for me so far, today was beginning the same way, i lost 50 cents real quick on a missed draw(5NL), then just sat for a while stealing blinds(thanks PAHUD, just got the serial today). after 100 hands of stealing blinds and being colder than eskimo coot, this little beauty pops up.

the villian wasnt getting out of line, until the few hands before this one. had raised preflop the last 3-4 hands, i called him down to fold the river with pocket 10's the previous hand hoping to hit. he was giving me odds and bet 10 cents on every street, same as his preflop raise. i had position on him as well. so this hand comes next, i smile and tell my monitor that i want him to raise again.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($0.98)
UTG+1 ($0.98)
MP1 ($4.70)
MP2 ($1.50)
CO ($2.41)
Hero ($4.25)
SB ($6.06)
BB ($5)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP2 posts a blind of $0.02.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 (poster) checks, CO raises to $0.1, Hero raises to $0.26, 2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls $0.16.

reraise since villian has been raising the last few preflops. that is my friggen button. should this raise have been bigger? i still have trouble with reraise sizing.

Flop: ($0.59) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.42, CO calls $0.42.

ha, TPTK sucka, i ownz you. bet close to pot to eliminate odds for the FD, although i know you're calling so it doesnt matter.

Turn: ($1.43) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.78, CO calls $0.78.

what a freaking ugly card, after the call, i figure i am WA/WB. perhaps villian just had some decent cards a few hands in a row, it could happen. screw me sideways. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

River: ($2.99) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $1.02, CO calls $0.95 (All-In).

and the money shot, i am WA or we are choppin like some friggen black belts. all in sucka, just in case.

Final Pot: $4.96

Results below:
CO has 3c Ac (one pair, aces).
Hero has Kc As (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $4.95.

A3? ship it.

on a side note, without PAHUD, none of my breakeven over the last 90 hands would have been possible. i dont steal all that often unless i see someone that is folding every hand and plays one every few orbits. PAHUD showed me the goods so i could play better. i single tabled for probly an hour just so i can get used to have the stats and quickly determine what is up with a hand, without letting the stats determine how i play preflop.(no limping with A4o just because OOP villian limps and plays 90% of his hands.)

RAHZero

01-03-2007, 03:07 AM

Crazy day of poker that started off by getting two outered, but ended up nicely. Could have been big without the rough start, and a couple other bad beats, but got ridiculously lucky with JJ vs. QQ on 444 flop when A hit turn and case 4 hit river.

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7688/jan2nlfj7.jpg

corsakh

01-03-2007, 03:09 AM

Mmm. If you dont know how much to reraise preflop, reraise 3.5 times + 1 for every caller.

Flop bet is not close to the pot. 50 is close to the pot.

On the turn he has 1.7 behind and you bet 0.9? If you want to bet here you have to shove. Besides, Q is good for you. Gives you more outs against AJ.

derosnec

01-03-2007, 03:33 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($22.45)
BB ($31.25)
UTG ($29.70)
MP ($25)
Hero ($29.05)
Button ($25.45)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.25, 3 folds, UTG calls $2.50.

Flop: ($6.85) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.25, UTG calls $3.25.

Turn: ($13.35) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $7, UTG calls $7.

River: ($27.35) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $15, UTG folds.

Final Pot: $42.35

Dastone

01-03-2007, 03:36 AM

nh.

What do you think he had?

kaz2107

01-03-2007, 03:52 AM

r there n e decent tables at 50nl on stars? this sucks nutz. i have been table hoppin for about an hour and havent found [censored]. wtf!!! i must just suck at findin good ones cuz i kno fish r out therrrrr

derosnec

01-03-2007, 03:58 AM

he is agressive. so i didnt think he had a monster or a flush draw because he plays them aggro on flop. when he checked the river i knew that he likely did not have flush and couldnt call.

derosnec

01-03-2007, 04:00 AM

[ QUOTE ]
r there n e decent tables at 50nl on stars? this sucks nutz. i have been table hoppin for about an hour and havent found [censored]. wtf!!! i must just suck at findin good ones cuz i kno fish r out therrrrr

[/ QUOTE ]

the games after 12 am usually suck on stars. many tags/nits are around at this time. not sure why. europeans perhaps?

corsakh

01-03-2007, 04:11 AM

This is a crying post.
I'd done with cbetting. Even HU. Even on the button. Even on K72r. This is freaking ridiculous. Wasting half a buyin on another idiot who can not fold a 7.

derosnec

01-03-2007, 04:12 AM

what stakes?

corsakh

01-03-2007, 04:12 AM

10NL

derosnec

01-03-2007, 04:16 AM

yeah cbets get called a decent amount at 10nl, in my experece

corsakh

01-03-2007, 04:16 AM

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
9 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $7.80
UTG+1: $15.42
MP1: $2
MP2: $5.48
MP3: $9.85
Hero: $10.15
Button: $19.59
SB: $2.55
BB: $1.90

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.3, 3 folds, Hero calls, Button raises to $0.5, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises to $3, Button calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($6.65, 2 players)
Hero bets $4.5, Button raises to $9, Hero calls all-in $2.65.
Uncalled bets: $1.85 returned to Button.

Turn: 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($20.95, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $20.95)

River: A/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($20.95, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $20.95)

Results:
Final pot: $20.95
Button shows 6c Ts 
Hero doesnt show Th Td

kaz2107

01-03-2007, 04:22 AM

dont worry i love to pone regs. holla ballas

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($52.15)
Button :#A500AF(50 nl NIT)/ ($80.80)
Hero ($51)
BB ($54.55)
UTG ($70.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, Button :#A500AF(50 nl NIT)/ raises to $2, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, Button :#A500AF(50 nl NIT)/ calls $5.

Flop: ($14.50) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $10, 50 nl NIT calls $10.

Turn: ($34.50) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $34 (All-In), 50 nl NIT folds.

Final Pot: $68.50

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins $68.50.

derosnec

01-03-2007, 04:35 AM

nice

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Hero ($23.50)
BB ($12.20)
Button ($25.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Button raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $4.05, 1 fold, Button calls $2.80.

Flop: ($8.35) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5.9, Button calls $5.90.

Turn: ($20.15) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $6, Hero raises to $13.55, Button calls $7.55.

River: ($47.25) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $47.25

Results in white below:
Hero has Js Jh (one pair, jacks).
Button has Tc As (flush, king high).
Outcome: Button wins $47.25.

corsakh

01-03-2007, 04:39 AM

Ooh, he had overs. And a combo draw. Especially overs. Its EV- to fold overs to a check raise.

shoxbb6

01-03-2007, 04:41 AM

I /images/graemlins/heart.gif heads up sngs.
That is all.

derosnec

01-03-2007, 04:43 AM

maybe i should have open pushed turn.

flop was ok i think, dont like potting flop in reraised pots

corsakh

01-03-2007, 04:45 AM

I think is ok potting flops whens its shorthanded. But I doubt he folds to any push here, hes got da nutz.

derosnec

01-03-2007, 04:46 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I /images/graemlins/heart.gif heads up sngs.
That is all.

[/ QUOTE ]

i have played over 600 of those and they are super easy money. worst players on earth.

derosnec

01-03-2007, 05:37 AM

450bb pot (i need to cool down preflop)

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SB ($52.35)
Hero ($57.80)
UTG ($9.55)
MP ($27.20)
CO ($29.25)
Button ($95.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, MP folds, Button calls $4.

Flop: ($11.10) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $7.9, Button calls $7.90.

Turn: ($26.90) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $10.25, Button calls $10.25.

River: ($47.40) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $34.65 (All-In), Button calls $34.65.

Final Pot: $116.70

Results in white below:
Hero has 6c Jc (straight, jack high).
Button has As Th (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $116.70.

kaz2107

01-03-2007, 05:58 AM

[ QUOTE ]
450bb pot (i need to cool down preflop)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($52.35)
Hero ($57.80)
UTG ($9.55)
MP ($27.20)
CO ($29.25)
Button ($95.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, MP folds, Button calls $4.

Flop: ($11.10) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $7.9, Button calls $7.90.

Turn: ($26.90) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $10.25, Button calls $10.25.

River: ($47.40) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $34.65 (All-In), Button calls $34.65.

Final Pot: $116.70

Results in white below:
Hero has 6c Jc (straight, jack high).
Button has As Th (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $116.70.

[/ QUOTE ]

i like the effort. assuming u dont have a read that he is a huge calling station. turn bet is kinda weird but sets u up perfectly for a sick river shove. aggression is tha nutz

jcg2005

01-03-2007, 06:16 AM

Hello everyone i havent made many posts here on 2p2, but i wanted to ask a bankroll management question and felt like this was the best place to do so. How many buyins would you guys suggest for 4 tabling micro nl like 25nl or 50nl? Thanks and good luck.

MortenTA

01-03-2007, 06:27 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Hello everyone i havent made many posts here on 2p2, but i wanted to ask a bankroll management question and felt like this was the best place to do so. How many buyins would you guys suggest for 4 tabling micro nl like 25nl or 50nl? Thanks and good luck.

[/ QUOTE ]

welcome /images/graemlins/smile.gif

try reading the FAQ Sticky - It should have some info on BR-management I think..

jcg2005

01-03-2007, 07:08 AM

Ok will do thanks.

TheCutter

01-03-2007, 08:23 AM

corsakh

01-03-2007, 08:50 AM

I'm sitting at FR talbe at Party Poker, 10NL

21/3/3
11/4/5
16/7/2
17/5/2
19/8/9

And I am 16/10.

Good game Mr George Bush

munkey

01-03-2007, 09:16 AM

nh Kaz
A9s is my 3bet NIT bluff hand /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Saw this hand, what do you think villan BB has here?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $111.60
Hero: $151.30
Button: $41.55
SB: $74.55
BB: $46.15

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG calls, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: A/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($6.25, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $6, Hero calls, BB raises all-in $44.15, UTG folds, Hero ?

BB is 33/5 2/7.5/2 over 250 hands (mined)
UTG is a donkey
Hero is a TAG, would you fold bottom set here?

My main question is would you take a reserved seat betwen BTN and Hero is with the nitTAG(Hero) on my right and the donkey with 200bbs one to the right?

homeslice

01-03-2007, 09:27 AM

munkey

01-03-2007, 09:30 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
nh Kaz
A9s is my 3bet NIT bluff hand /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Saw this hand, what do you think villan BB has here?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $111.60
Hero: $151.30
Button: $41.55
SB: $74.55
BB: $46.15

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG calls, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: A/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($6.25, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $6, Hero calls, BB raises all-in $44.15, UTG folds, Hero ?

BB is 33/5 2/7.5/2 over 250 hands (mined)
UTG is a donkey
Hero is a TAG, would you fold bottom set here?

My main question is would you take a reserved seat betwen BTN and Hero is with the nitTAG(Hero) on my right and the donkey with 200bbs one to the right?

[/ QUOTE ]

why did you just flat call UTG on the flop?

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't know, UTG is a bluff donkey though.

AJGibson

01-03-2007, 09:40 AM

I just woke up after 1 hours sleep, so we could check out of our hostel. I now have to get a 23hours bus ride to patagonia, with a hang over that makes my head feel like it`s had a french man living in it. It`s not going to be pretty.

derosnec

01-03-2007, 10:06 AM

there went two buy ins

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UTG ($29.30)
MP ($24.75)
CO ($24.75)
Button ($13.85)
Hero ($39.50)
BB ($42.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, CO raises to $24.75, Hero calls $19.75.

Flop: ($49.75) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Turn: ($49.75) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)

River: ($49.75) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $49.75

Results in white below:
Hero has Ad Ks (one pair, jacks).
CO has 4c 4d (two pair, jacks and fours).
Outcome: CO wins $49.75.

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Button ($49.40)
Hero ($26.05)
BB ($12.05)
UTG ($29.25)
MP ($38.15)
CO ($85.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG raises to $1, 1 fold, CO raises to $3.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $26.05, 1 fold, UTG folds, CO calls $22.30.

Flop: ($53.35) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Turn: ($53.35) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

River: ($53.35) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $53.35

Results in white below:
Hero has Ad Ks (one pair, fives).
CO has Qd Qh (full house, queens full of fives).
Outcome: CO wins $53.35.

tehDiceman

01-03-2007, 10:33 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I'm sitting at FR talbe at Party Poker, 10NL

21/3/3
11/4/5
16/7/2
17/5/2
19/8/9

And I am 16/10.

Good game Mr George Bush

[/ QUOTE ]

actually, i think you should be congratulating ex-senator frist. i would doubt bush cares, he got his oil monies.

im pretty sure at this point that frist doesnt care anymore either, since he got voted out. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Imrahil

01-03-2007, 10:41 AM

Pot control = free monies:

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Hero ($50)
Button ($56.35)
SB ($24.50)
BB ($11.85)
UTG ($58.70)
MP ($42.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $2, Hero raises to $6, 3 folds, MP calls $4.

Flop: ($12.75) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $8, MP calls $8.

Turn: ($28.75) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks.

River: ($28.75) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $15, MP calls $15.

Final Pot: $58.75

Results in white below: 
MP has Jd Jh (two pair, queens and jacks).
Hero has Kc Ac (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $58.75.

Imrahil

01-03-2007, 10:46 AM

Was pretty sure I was beat on the flop but I'm not folding a set:

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MP ($48.55)
CO ($28.65)
Button ($16.45)
SB ($79.90)
Hero ($56.25)
UTG ($49.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif.
3 folds, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, Hero raises to $2.5, Button raises to $4.5, SB folds, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($9.50) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5, Hero raises to $14.5, Button calls $6.95 (All-In).

Turn: ($35.95) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($35.95) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $35.95

Results in white below: 
Hero has 5d 5c (full house, fives full of kings).
Button has As Ah (full house, aces full of kings).
Outcome: Button wins $33.40. Hero wins $2.55.

Imrahil

01-03-2007, 11:04 AM

Lolz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

converter's kinda screwing the HH up.

PokerStars Game #7743834776: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/01/03 - 09:54:16 (ET)
Table 'Genoveva III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: PrnceImrahil ($50 in chips)
Seat 2: Wild^3 ($21.70 in chips)
Seat 5: alfonsorojo ($25.75 in chips)
Seat 6: fitsmiler ($61.95 in chips)
PrnceImrahil: posts small blind $0.25
Wild^3: posts big blind $0.50
alfonsorojo: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PrnceImrahil [Ks Ah]
alfonsorojo: raises $0.50 to $1
fitsmiler: calls $1
PrnceImrahil: raises $3 to $4
Wild^3: raises $3 to $7
alfonsorojo: calls $6
fitsmiler: folds
PrnceImrahil: raises $40.50 to $47.50
Wild^3: calls $14.70 and is all-in
alfonsorojo: calls $18.75 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [3d 3c 6h]
*** TURN *** [3d 3c 6h] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [3d 3c 6h 2s] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PrnceImrahil: shows [Ks Ah] (a pair of Threes)
alfonsorojo: mucks hand
PrnceImrahil collected $8.10 from side pot
Wild^3: mucks hand
PrnceImrahil collected $64.10 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $74.20 Main pot $64.10. Side pot $8.10. | Rake $2
Board [3d 3c 6h 2s 9c]
Seat 1: PrnceImrahil (small blind) showed [Ks Ah] and won ($72.20) with a pair of Threes
Seat 2: Wild^3 (big blind) mucked [Jh As]
Seat 5: alfonsorojo mucked [Ad Ts]
Seat 6: fitsmiler (button) folded before Flop

I then proceeded to get AK 2 times in a row at the same table.

Messiahkid

01-03-2007, 11:13 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Was pretty sure I was beat on the flop but I'm not folding a set:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($48.55)
CO ($28.65)
Button ($16.45)
SB ($79.90)
Hero ($56.25)
UTG ($49.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif.
3 folds, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, Hero raises to $2.5, Button raises to $4.5, SB folds, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($9.50) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5, Hero raises to $14.5, Button calls $6.95 (All-In).

Turn: ($35.95) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($35.95) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $35.95

Results in white below: 
Hero has 5d 5c (full house, fives full of kings).
Button has As Ah (full house, aces full of kings).
Outcome: Button wins $33.40. Hero wins $2.55. 

[/ QUOTE ]

Gotta love shortstack miracles flopping set over set.

Imrahil

01-03-2007, 11:22 AM

If only PS had a BBJ and the 5s came...Oh, an here's proof that 50NL players don't fastplay quads.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($92.60)
SB ($10.45)
BB ($31.15)
UTG ($47.20)
MP ($55.90)
CO ($8.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($10.25) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $3.5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $13.75

Results in white below: 
BB shows 44
Outcome: BB wins $13.75.

Messiahkid

01-03-2007, 11:28 AM

How in the world does he check the turn....

Imrahil

01-03-2007, 11:32 AM

[ QUOTE ]
How in the world does he check the turn....

[/ QUOTE ]

He has the nuts duh...

Quester

01-03-2007, 11:35 AM

Get caught between 2 LAGfish, play passively, get there!

Me yelling at my screen on the flop: "I'm calling you! I don't care if you shove or not! I'm calling you!"

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($12.60)
SB ($16.55)
BB ($8.50)
UTG ($6)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG raises to $0.2, Hero calls $0.20, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.4, UTG raises to $0.6, Hero calls $0.40, BB raises to $1.4, UTG calls $0.80, Hero calls $0.80.

Flop: ($4.25) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB bets $7.1 (All-In), UTG folds, Hero calls $7.10.

Turn: ($18.45) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($18.45) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $18.45

Results:
BB has Ac Ad (two pair, aces and kings).
Hero has Kd Qh (full house, kings full of queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $18.45.

If only every day I can run g00t and make 85 PTBB/100 over 400 hands... *sigh*

jonyy6788

01-03-2007, 11:39 AM

Sorry for not getting the video up last night. I fell asleep watching a movie. It's up now.

Forum Post (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8641123&an=0&page=0#Post 8641123)

Quester

01-03-2007, 11:39 AM

1 more:

Who says you can't bet middle pair for value?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($3.95)
Hero ($15.10)
BB ($3.85)
UTG ($0.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.3, BB raises to $0.8, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($1.60) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.7, Hero calls $0.70.

Turn: ($3) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($3) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, BB calls $1.50.

Final Pot: $6

Results in white below: 
Hero has 9s Th (two pair, tens and sevens).
BB has 9c 9d (two pair, nines and sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins $6.

Imrahil

01-03-2007, 11:51 AM

ZOMG WTF!?!?!
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($90.10)
CO ($40.95)
Button ($14)
Hero ($51.80)
BB ($56.55)
UTG ($43.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.5, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($5.50) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3.

Turn: ($11.50) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $8, UTG calls $8.

River: ($27.50) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $18.5, UTG calls $18.50.

Final Pot: $64.50

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ac Kh (two pair, aces and kings).
UTG has Qs Js (one pair, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $64.50.

jonyy6788

01-03-2007, 11:57 AM

His program to change his hole cards quit working on the river....

MortenTA

01-03-2007, 05:06 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I'm sitting at FR talbe at Party Poker, 10NL

21/3/3
11/4/5
16/7/2
17/5/2
19/8/9

And I am 16/10.

Good game Mr George Bush

[/ QUOTE ]

try 6 max.. IMO it's just as loose as always. I havn't felt much change since the ban..

sputum

01-03-2007, 05:13 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm sitting at FR talbe at Party Poker, 10NL

21/3/3
11/4/5
16/7/2
17/5/2
19/8/9

And I am 16/10.

Good game Mr George Bush

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[/ QUOTE ]

Doesn't make them automatically unprofitable /images/graemlins/confused.gif

kaz2107

01-03-2007, 05:16 PM

[ QUOTE ]
nh Kaz
A9s is my 3bet NIT bluff hand /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Saw this hand, what do you think villan BB has here?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $111.60
Hero: $151.30
Button: $41.55
SB: $74.55
BB: $46.15

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG calls, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: A/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($6.25, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $6, Hero calls, BB raises all-in $44.15, UTG folds, Hero ?

BB is 33/5 2/7.5/2 over 250 hands (mined)
UTG is a donkey
Hero is a TAG, would you fold bottom set here?

My main question is would you take a reserved seat betwen BTN and Hero is with the nitTAG(Hero) on my right and the donkey with 200bbs one to the right?

[/ QUOTE ]

I prolly call. Villian just isnt good enough imo to fold. yea he is semi nitty but u have a set and sets r tha nutz /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I think his range here is AT, AQ, AK, KJ, AA, QQ (altho i dont think he plays a set or straight so quick all that often so i think those r smaller parts of his range.)

As for picking a seat i insta take tha seat (not totally sure if i understand the question exactly but here is my interpretation (if im wrong lemme kno or pm me or sumtin). u r prolly better then the guy sitting directly to ur right so that isnt a huge problem and u r obv better then tha fish. tha fish is deep (yayayayayay) and u have position. i would sit one to the right of a deep stacked fish no matter who sits between us. u r +EV no matter wut.

munkey

01-03-2007, 05:39 PM

Kaz

I tried to pokerstove it but my version has expired and the website was offline I'm redownloading it now /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Using your range gives the following:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

136,620 games 0.010 secs 13,662,000 games/sec

Board: Ac Th Qs
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.394% 42.76% 00.63% 58423 862.00 { AA, QQ, AQs+, ATs, KJs, AQo+, ATo, KJo }
Hand 1: 56.606% 55.97% 00.63% 76473 862.00 { TT }

Interestingly which is one of the reasons I posted this hand as I remember a fim post where a SET vs made str8 is ~33% equity as shown below:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

47,520 games 0.005 secs 9,504,000 games/sec

Board: Ac Th Qs
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 65.120% 64.67% 00.45% 30729 216.00 { KJs, KJo }
Hand 1: 34.880% 34.43% 00.45% 16359 216.00 { TT }

So a flopped str8 vs a set has 15% edge - more reason IMHO to shove turn with made str8s if you suspect a set is a large aprt of their range.

Thanks for answering the seat question - I've been trying to seat select better and would sit down.

FWIW I couldn't fold bottom set there and I think the PStove supports it. I didn't think BB would play the nut str8 this fast (like you said too) but he did, TAG called and didn't boat. Another big stack to sit with /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

munkey

EMc

01-03-2007, 06:42 PM

munkey,

Post more.

A lot more.

Regards,

EMc

kaz2107

01-03-2007, 06:59 PM

[ QUOTE ]
munkey,

Post more.

A lot more.

Regards,

EMc

[/ QUOTE ]
agrred holla

as for tha hand i think u r even ahead more since u cant really set percentages of each hand in tha range and i REALLY think that the ones that beat u dont play it that fast all that often. i really think u see 2 pair here or AK a ton here.

wut about tha question on seat choices? did i understand it correctly or was i confused?

cardsport

01-03-2007, 07:11 PM

Don´t know if this the right place to ask, but...

I have my Bankroll divided at UB and PP.

1) I plan to put all money in one account and don´t have 1/2 in ub and 1/2 in pp!? I always found it good to have another site to play on if you run bad at the other.

So, better splitt or put it together???

2) Is PartyPoker the best option?

Is there a reason to prefer ps or ft over pp?

Thanks for any thoughts...

Imrahil

01-03-2007, 07:15 PM

I'm thinking about putting money on Party sometime although I play at PS 100% right now. I'd put all my money on PP if I were you.

corsakh

01-03-2007, 08:13 PM

They don't have 6max for 10NL at party.

cardsport

01-03-2007, 08:36 PM

[ QUOTE ]
They don't have 6max for 10NL at party.

[/ QUOTE ]

i hope to stay at NL25 /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

otherwise i like the party NL10 tables, its really easy money /images/graemlins/wink.gif

corsakh

01-03-2007, 08:46 PM

Dude, its hard to find a fish there now /images/graemlins/wink.gif I played a full ring full of nits last night.

cardsport

01-03-2007, 08:54 PM

kidding, right?

i run like ~10ptb/100 in the last 4k hands.

pm your sn, i´m CardSportNL @PP and UB!

corsakh

01-03-2007, 08:56 PM

I am not complaining, I run about the same, but I had 20ptbb before /images/graemlins/smile.gif

cardsport

01-03-2007, 09:05 PM

wow, 20ptbb is awesome!!!

looking forward to play with you!

Really would like to know your sn!

complaints about me?

keikiwai

01-04-2007, 06:12 AM

i figured out how to play at full tilt

get it in bad = monies!

Full Tilt Poker
$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

Stack Sizes
BB: $16.5
UTG: $9.75
MP: $47.45
Hero (CO): $11.75
BTN: $10.50
SB: $9.65

Preflop: Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($0.15, 6 players)
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.80, Hero raises to $2.55, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls $2.45, MP raises all in to $47.45, Hero calls all in for $9.20, BB calls all in for $14.05
Uncalled bet of $30.85 returned to MP

Flop: 4http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($45, 3 players)
No action

Turn: 4http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif [3http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif] ($45, 3 players)
No action

River: 4http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif [8/images/graemlins/heart.gif] ($45, 3 players)
No action

Results:
BB had K/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Eights) and won $9.70
MP had Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (Ace King high)
Hero had Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Queens) and won $33.30
Final Pot: $43.00 ($2.00 rake)

half orbit later

Full Tilt Poker
$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

Stack Sizes
SB: $8.45
BB: $18.2
UTG: $21.50
Hero (MP): $35.05
CO: $9.60
BTN: $9.35

Preflop: Thttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif ($0.15, 6 players)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.40, CO folds, BTN calls $0.40, SB calls $0.35, BB folds

Flop: 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($1.3, 3 players)
SB bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30, BTN raises all in to $8.95, SB calls all in for $6.80, Hero calls $7.65

Turn: 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif [T/images/graemlins/heart.gif] ($27.3, 3 players)
No action

River: 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif [7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif] ($27.3, 3 players)
No action

Results:
SB had 6http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 6http://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
Hero had Thttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (a full house, Aces full of Tens) and won $25.30
BTN had Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Aces)
Final Pot: $25.30 ($2.00 rake)

Genz

01-04-2007, 06:24 AM

In the last 2 days, I lost more than 1/4th of my (tiny) bankroll. There was certainly a lot of bad play involved, just as a shortstack strategy that hit quite some bad luck. I cashed out, because that's what I do, when I tilt: I cash out and swear, I never play again. Then I calm down and feel like a wuss, because all others just keep trying.

So now I have some tiny $140 on neteller. I was playing on stars before. Where do you recommend I take it? I see lots of people posting hands from FT here. I've never played there. Should i give it a shot? I'm from europe so us legislation is not an issue.

Everlong

01-04-2007, 06:34 AM

[ QUOTE ]
In the last 2 days, I lost more than 1/4th of my (tiny) bankroll. There was certainly a lot of bad play involved, just as a shortstack strategy that hit quite some bad luck. I cashed out, because that's what I do, when I tilt: I cash out and swear, I never play again. Then I calm down and feel like a wuss, because all others just keep trying.

So now I have some tiny $140 on neteller. I was playing on stars before. Where do you recommend I take it? I see lots of people posting hands from FT here. I've never played there. Should i give it a shot? I'm from europe so us legislation is not an issue.

[/ QUOTE ]

Take it to NL10 on either FT (if you have RB -> Don't laugh if you get a decent amount of hands in you are still looking at a decent % of your BR in rakeback even at NL10) or Stars.

But I have yet to find a site where NL10 isn't populated by monkeys so you can't go wrong anywhere. I had an incredibly profitable strecth at IPOKER (Titan specifically). Not as many tables to chose from but horrid opposition and minitables.

GL.

Genz

01-04-2007, 06:41 AM

[ QUOTE ]
(if you have RB -> Don't laugh if you get a decent amount of hands in you are still looking at a decent % of your BR in rakeback even at NL10)

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't have an account on FTP yet and I have no experience with rakeback deals. Is there common knowledge about what rakeback-dealer is best or what I have to look out for? I see that some sponsor 2+2 or are 2+2ers. But still I feel creepy around rakeback-sites.

Everlong

01-04-2007, 08:01 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
(if you have RB -> Don't laugh if you get a decent amount of hands in you are still looking at a decent % of your BR in rakeback even at NL10)

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't have an account on FTP yet and I have no experience with rakeback deals. Is there common knowledge about what rakeback-dealer is best or what I have to look out for? I see that some sponsor 2+2 or are 2+2ers. But still I feel creepy around rakeback-sites.

[/ QUOTE ]

check your pm´s

munkey

01-04-2007, 08:48 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
munkey,

Post more.

A lot more.

Regards,

EMc

[/ QUOTE ]
agrred holla

as for tha hand i think u r even ahead more since u cant really set percentages of each hand in tha range and i REALLY think that the ones that beat u dont play it that fast all that often. i really think u see 2 pair here or AK a ton here.

wut about tha question on seat choices? did i understand it correctly or was i confused?

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks guys - I'll try to post more.

I completly agree Kaz with your analysis the set(no pfr rrz)/str8 are much less likely in his range and AK AQ or pair+gutshot more likely so more like 60/40+.

I may be a little /images/graemlins/confused.gif about that seat question - perhaps I didn't phrase it correctly but I understood your answer and can't remember if the open seat was where I said it was LOL /images/graemlins/blush.gif

munkeys actually not running v.well at the mo -well I'm not losing just keep getting rivered LOL + followed a donkey to NL100 and lost 130$ KK in rrz pot. -3NL50 buyins

uholla

Imrahil

01-04-2007, 10:46 AM

My PokerStove expired. Where do I go to download it again?

danny8

01-04-2007, 10:53 AM

[ QUOTE ]
My PokerStove expired. Where do I go to download it again?

[/ QUOTE ]

pokerstove.com... but it wont work for me today

munkey

01-04-2007, 11:00 AM

I had the same problem yesterdy- bandwith excession.

I managed to download it yesterday evening. Wait till ~9pm GMT and try again if not I'll try and upload it here l8er this evening.

Imrahil

01-04-2007, 11:05 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I had the same problem yesterdy- bandwith excession.

I managed to download it yesterday evening. Wait till ~9pm GMT and try again if not I'll try and upload it here l8er this evening.

[/ QUOTE ]

OK ty.

Quester

01-04-2007, 11:14 AM

[ QUOTE ]
So now I have some tiny $140 on neteller. I was playing on stars before. Where do you recommend I take it? I see lots of people posting hands from FT here. I've never played there. Should i give it a shot? I'm from europe so us legislation is not an issue.

[/ QUOTE ]

Personally I've found the 10NL game at Stars to be extremely soft. See my earlier post where I value bet 2nd pair on the river. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

For the interface, support, number of 6-max tables, and player base, I think Stars would still be my #1 pick today.

Imrahil

01-04-2007, 11:17 AM

This is why I overplay PPs:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($52.50)
UTG ($65.10)
MP ($48.55)
CO ($22.80)
Button ($43.55)
SB ($79.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, Hero raises to $3, Button calls $2.50, SB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($9) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.5, Button calls $5.50, SB folds.

Turn: ($20) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $15, Button calls $15.

River: ($50) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $20.5, Button calls $20.05 (All-In).

Final Pot: $90.55

Results in white below: 
Hero has Qc Qs (two pair, queens and eights).
Button has As 2s (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Hero wins $90.55. \

Ahhhhh flop bet WAY too small.

TheCutter

01-04-2007, 11:34 AM

I like my graph - I fixed a few leaks just before the new year - guess on what hand nr that was:

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/8879/graphzj3.th.jpg (http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/8879/graphzj3.jpg)

munkey

01-04-2007, 03:19 PM

Imrahil and anyone else PokerStove link:

PokerStove_Setup (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PKD1S0OB)

Imrahil

01-04-2007, 03:21 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Imrahil and anyone else PokerStove link:

PokerStove_Setup (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PKD1S0OB)

[/ QUOTE ]

TY, this is what I wanted to calculate:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,712,304 games 0.016 secs 107,019,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 88.150% 87.21% 00.94% 1493272 16131.50 { QdQh }
Hand 1: 11.850% 10.91% 00.94% 186769 16131.50 { Qs4s }

kaz2107

01-04-2007, 04:53 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Imrahil and anyone else PokerStove link:

PokerStove_Setup (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PKD1S0OB)

[/ QUOTE ]

TY, this is what I wanted to calculate:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,712,304 games 0.016 secs 107,019,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 88.150% 87.21% 00.94% 1493272 16131.50 { QdQh }
Hand 1: 11.850% 10.91% 00.94% 186769 16131.50 { Qs4s }

[/ QUOTE ]

lol i take it u lost tha hand with QQ? lol [censored] donks. q4s is tha nutz obv

Imrahil

01-04-2007, 05:18 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Imrahil and anyone else PokerStove link:

PokerStove_Setup (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PKD1S0OB)

[/ QUOTE ]

TY, this is what I wanted to calculate:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,712,304 games 0.016 secs 107,019,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 88.150% 87.21% 00.94% 1493272 16131.50 { QdQh }
Hand 1: 11.850% 10.91% 00.94% 186769 16131.50 { Qs4s }

[/ QUOTE ]

lol i take it u lost tha hand with QQ? lol [censored] donks. q4s is tha nutz obv

[/ QUOTE ]

Lol ya, but only a $25 pot. Once I lost KK < K2s AIPF in a $4.40 180 man donkament LOL. I wish it was offsuit then it would have been even sweeter.

corsakh

01-04-2007, 05:18 PM

Are there any poker rooms in existence that have proper BI rules? I spend 15 minutes every session on party trying to find a table where less than half of the players are shortstacks and then when they bust they are getting replaced by 20BB buyers.

jonyy6788

01-04-2007, 05:27 PM

Go try Doyle's Room, LOL...I think the min. is 10BB and the max is 200BB. It makes for some interesting pots.

Stars is nice b/c they make the default buyin at NL50 $30, so the donks usually just click ok

derosnec

01-04-2007, 08:41 PM

600+ bb pot

[censored] turn

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($28.70)
Button ($59.65)
Hero ($60.45)
BB ($6.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
Hero bets $0.95, BB calls $0.95, UTG calls $0.95, Button raises to $4, Hero raises to $13.9, BB calls $5.10 (All-In), UTG calls $12.95, Button raises to $59.4, Hero raises to $73.15, UTG calls $14.55 (All-In).

Turn: ($168.05) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($168.05) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $168.05

Results in white below:
Hero has Qc Ah (straight, ace high).
BB has 8s As (straight, ace high).
UTG has 9c Ac (straight, ace high).
Button has Qd 9d (straight, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins $117.65. UTG wins $42. BB wins $8.40.

wtf am i doing pf??? horrible

EMc

01-04-2007, 08:57 PM

Kill me Please

Im busto and its not from playing (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8661221&an=0&page=0#Post 8661221)

Triggerle

01-04-2007, 09:16 PM

A dream hand:

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
Hero: $48.30
UTG+1: $19.95
CO: $166.75
Button: $51.05
SB: $59.15
BB: $49

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, Button raises to $6, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($18.25, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $13, BB calls, Hero raises all-in $42.3, Button calls, BB raises all-in $43, Button calls.

Turn: A/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($146.55, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $145.15, Sidepot 1: $1.4)

River: 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($146.55, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $145.15, Sidepot 1: $1.4)

Results:
Final pot: $146.55
Button showed Qh Ac
BB showed Qc Qd
Hero showed 9d 9s

kaz2107

01-04-2007, 09:16 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Kill me Please

Im busto and its not from playing (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8661221&an=0&page=0#Post 8661221)

[/ QUOTE ]

dude this sux soooo hard i cant imagine this happening to me. sigh. prolly a hint that i dont need 90 BIs for tha limit implayin and should take some off line.

i dont kno much about computers n [censored] but if u need n e thing and think i could send me a pm. (basically if u find out who did it and want me to go with u and beat their ass)

kaz2107

01-04-2007, 10:20 PM

k im seriously stressin out over this happening. does n e onoe have n e hints and tips of things to do to make this less likely to happen?

recently i have been getting these pop ups from aim sayin my account is logged in at more then one location so im really freakin out over this. i changed my password on aim and then i got the same pop up about 20 mins later. wtf?!?!?!?

Messiahkid

01-04-2007, 10:36 PM

Kaz...

Google trendmicro and run their free virusscan.

Download the following for free from download.com:
-lavasoft adaware
-spybot search & destroy
-zonealarm

Never store passwords, and always keep these programs updated and run them a few times a week.

limit refugee

01-04-2007, 11:41 PM

Eric, that sucks, I fell terrible for you.

You're the peoples mod, our fearless leader down here. If anybody wants to have a tournament with, say, maybe 50-90% of the proceeds to going to you as a start to rebuilding your bankroll if this doesn't get straightened out, I'd be up for it.

GL

(First name is Eric, isn't it? Sorry if i got it wrong.)

checkmate36

01-04-2007, 11:55 PM

tehDiceman

01-05-2007, 01:24 AM

why is everyone so crazy about not storing passwords. some of the biggest techies and paranoid people i know save most if not all of their passwords on their machine. bottom line, if someone wants it, you not saving it wont stop them.

i would contact neteller and see if they guarentee your funds. you might also want to contact the poker sites you play on where the money was sent. they should be able to match the transactions to where the money is and trace it down. most likely it was transferred to "you", then transferred to someone else, then withdrawn or lost. at least they will have a better idea of who is doing what on their site and possibly shut some of the thieves down, and/or retrieve some of your money.

shoxbb6

01-05-2007, 01:45 AM

[ QUOTE ]
why is everyone so crazy about not storing passwords. some of the biggest techies and paranoid people i know save most if not all of their passwords on their machine. bottom line, if someone wants it, you not saving it wont stop them.

[/ QUOTE ]
Because if someone steals my laptop, They won't be able to access my personal and financial data.

RAHZero

01-05-2007, 01:58 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
why is everyone so crazy about not storing passwords. some of the biggest techies and paranoid people i know save most if not all of their passwords on their machine. bottom line, if someone wants it, you not saving it wont stop them.

[/ QUOTE ]
Because if someone steals my laptop, They won't be able to access my personal and financial data.

[/ QUOTE ]

Password protect your computer too, so that no one can access it without your log-on password.

On a lighter note, this is a nice way to start a session. Villain is an 80+/21/2.8 downie, so I let him hang himself. Turns out I didn't need to, I was stacking him no matter what on that flop.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($118.90)
Hero ($81)
UTG ($81.70)
MP ($53.20)
CO ($71)
Button ($111.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG raises to $2.25, 1 fold, CO calls $2.25, Button calls $2.25, SB calls $2, Hero calls $1.75.

Flop: ($11.25) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $11.25, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls $11.25, UTG folds.

Turn: ($33.75) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $33.75, Hero raises to $67.50 (all-in), CO calls $57.50 (all-in.

River: ($145.75) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $145.75

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ts Tc (three of a kind, tens).
CO has 5d 5h (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins $145.75

derosnec

01-05-2007, 03:49 AM

currently on my 2nd big downswing over the past 40k hands

hands from past 2 days

SETS

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($29.45)
UTG ($25)
MP ($34.20)
CO ($20.15)
Button ($15.50)
Hero ($33.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($4) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.8, BB raises to $10, Hero raises to $30, BB calls $17.45 (All-In).

Turn: ($61.45) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($61.45) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $61.45

Results in white below:
Hero has Qd Qh (full house, queens full of sevens).
BB has 7s 7d (four of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: BB wins $58.90. Hero wins $2.55.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($25)
UTG ($25.15)
MP ($28.90)
CO ($13.70)
Hero ($51.40)
SB ($15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, SB raises to $2.25, 1 fold, MP folds, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($5) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $10.75, SB raises to $12.75, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($30.50) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

River: ($30.50) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $30.50

Results in white below:
SB has Jh Jd (full house, jacks full of sevens).
Hero has 8c 8d (full house, eights full of sevens).
Outcome: SB wins $30.50.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($35.45)
Button ($50.75)
SB ($19.10)
BB ($8.15)
UTG ($21.10)
MP ($13.70)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.

Flop: ($2.85) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.75, UTG calls $2.75.

Turn: ($8.35) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $7.95, UTG raises to $17.1, Hero calls $9.15.

River: ($42.55) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $42.55

Results in white below:
UTG has 9s 6s (straight, ten high).
Hero has 8s 8d (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: UTG wins $42.55.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($35.05)
Button ($19.75)
SB ($22.05)
Hero ($24.15)
UTG ($34.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG raises to $1.75, 2 folds, SB calls $1.65, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($5.25) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB bets $1.5, Hero raises to $9.5, UTG calls $9.50, SB raises to $20.3, Hero raises to $22.4, UTG folds.

Turn: ($57.45) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)

River: ($57.45) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $57.45

Results in white below:
SB has Ks Qd (full house, queens full of kings).
Hero has 4d 4c (full house, fours full of queens).
Outcome: SB wins $57.45.

OVERPAIRS

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($24.65)
UTG ($25.80)
MP ($31.85)
CO ($9.85)
Hero ($36.05)
SB ($29.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
2 folds, CO raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.5, 2 folds, CO calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.35) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $7, CO calls $6.35 (All-In).

Turn: ($20.70) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.70) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $20.70

Results in white below:
CO has Qc Qh (full house, queens full of jacks).
Hero has Ah Ad (two pair, aces and jacks).
Outcome: CO wins $20.05. Hero wins $0.65.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($12.75)
MP ($19.85)
CO ($30.25)
Button ($15.85)
Hero ($64.70)
BB ($12.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Button calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.5, 1 fold, UTG folds, Button calls $1.25.

Flop: ($3.50) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2.5, Button raises to $14.35, Hero calls $11.85.

Turn: ($32.20) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

River: ($32.20) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $32.20

Results in white below:
Hero has Qs Qc (two pair, queens and sevens).
Button has Jd 7d (full house, sevens full of sixes).
Outcome: Button wins $32.20.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($23.50)
BB ($12.20)
Button ($25.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Button raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $4.05, 1 fold, Button calls $2.80.

Flop: ($8.35) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $5.9, Button calls $5.90.

Turn: ($20.15) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $6, Hero raises to $13.55, Button calls $7.55.

River: ($47.25) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $47.25

Results in white below:
Hero has Js Jh (one pair, jacks).
Button has Tc As (flush, king high).
Outcome: Button wins $47.25.

DRAWS

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($23.60)
SB ($39.80)
Hero ($58.50)
UTG ($37.65)
MP ($24.65)
CO ($94.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
3 folds, Button raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1.5, Hero raises to $6.5, Button raises to $18, Hero raises to $29.5, Button calls $4.60 (All-In).

Turn: ($54.20) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($54.20) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $54.20

Results in white below:
Hero has Ad 7d (high card, ace).
Button has 5c 5h (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: Button wins $47.30. Hero wins $6.90.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($28.25)
Button ($26.25)
SB ($24)
BB ($20.65)
UTG ($37.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.25) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.15, SB raises to $4.3, Hero raises to $12.9, SB raises to $21.5, Hero raises to $38, SB calls $1.50 (All-In).

Turn: ($63.25) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($63.25) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $63.25

Results in white below:
SB has 7c 7s (full house, sevens full of fours).
Hero has 8d 6d (two pair, eights and fours).
Outcome: SB wins $48.25. Hero wins $15.

Spleen

01-05-2007, 04:02 AM

dero, I think my entire December was like that. Im still a little freaked out.

keikiwai

01-05-2007, 05:56 AM

today's ORLY play goes to:

Full Tilt Poker
$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
4 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

Stack Sizes
Hero (BB): $10
UTG: $7
BTN: $29.85
SB: $13.05

Preflop: A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($0.15, 4 players)
UTG calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.50, UTG folds, BTN raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN calls $1.60

Flop: Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($5.15, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6, Hero raises all in to $7.60, BTN calls $1.60

Turn: Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif [T/images/graemlins/spade.gif] ($20.35, 2 players)
No action

River: Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif [2http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif] ($20.35, 2 players)
No action

Results:
Hero had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (two pair, Aces and Jacks) and won $19.35
BTN had 9http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (two pair, Jacks and Twos)
Final Pot: $19.35 ($1.00 rake)

I felt a migraine coming on when I saw the turn and imagine the river......

SavageMiser

01-05-2007, 06:05 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Go try Doyle's Room, LOL...I think the min. is 10BB and the max is 200BB. It makes for some interesting pots.

Stars is nice b/c they make the default buyin at NL50 $30, so the donks usually just click ok

[/ QUOTE ]

I think the buy-ins are max 200bb until NL100, where it's capped at 100bb. The minimum is 10bb. You get a lot of short stacks, but 99 percent of them are huge donkeys. My favorites are the ones that buy in for 10bb, post out of position, then fold.

kaz2107

01-05-2007, 06:34 AM

comeback n e one???? ran like complete [censored] all night till the last 15 mins and i poned erryone. SHIP IT!!!!

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/sams08/Misc/gra-1.jpg

a really funny hand...

this donk had just shown a huge bluff against me (only i was bluffing as well and he rebluffed me lol) so next hand i open shove AKs from the BB after everyone limped to fake tilt. it folds around. tha donk says in the chat box "tilting r we?" very next hand i get AKo and it limps to me in the SB and i open shove again. tha donk turbo calls me with A7o and mhig. bahahahah. tilt that biotch.

SavageMiser

01-05-2007, 08:20 AM

A Short Illustration of the Disregard for Implied Odds
In which our Hero makes a laydown, notes an unabashed love of pocket pairs, and witnesses a possibly karmic resolution.

No Limit Holdem $0.50/$1

Stacks:
Oddsfellow $122.32
UTG $9
Hijack $44.25
Hero $143.92
Button $29.73
SB $42.25

Pre-flop: Hero has 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif
UTG raises to $5, Hijack raises to $9, Hero folds, Button folds, SB folds, Oddsfellow calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($27.50, 3 players)
Oddsfellow bets $18, Hijack raises to $35.25, Oddsfellow calls.

Turn: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($27.50 main pot, $70.50 side pot, 3 players)

River: 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif

Results:
Oddsfellow has 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG has K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
Hijack has J/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Hijack wins $68.34 with Full House: Jacks full of 5s; Hijack wins $26.66 with Full House: Jacks full of 5s

Names above are fictional.

homeslice

01-05-2007, 09:01 AM

The first bad beat I give for 2007.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($33.90)
MP ($16.80)
CO ($50)
Button ($52.30)
Hero ($68.30)
BB ($51.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.5, BB raises to $10, UTG folds, Hero raises to $68.3, BB calls $41.80 (All-In).

Flop: ($120.60) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($120.60) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($120.60) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $120.60

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kd Kh (flush, king high).
BB has Kc Ks (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $120.60.

munkey

01-05-2007, 09:36 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Kill me Please

Im busto and its not from playing (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8661221&an=0&page=0#Post 8661221)

[/ QUOTE ]

dude this sux soooo hard i cant imagine this happening to me. sigh. prolly a hint that i dont need 90 BIs for tha limit implayin and should take some off line.

i dont kno much about computers n [censored] but if u need n e thing and think i could send me a pm. (basically if u find out who did it and want me to go with u and beat their ass)

[/ QUOTE ]

+2 if you want some Euroland coverage.

Man eMc This sucks golfball thro hosepipe hard- I'm going to check my security and re distribute some of my bankroll. I hope FT and Stars support can track this down and see what happened.

PSA: Internet Security (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4837360&page=0&fpart=1&v c=1&nt=6)(from eMcs thread)

Important re: neteller (http://www.bet-the-pot.com/forum/poker-article14208.html&highlight=hack)(old thread)

BTW aren't you on a uni network - I known when I was at uni some dude who some friends knew bragged once about hacking peoples computers -but he told us he had to be in their room to put keylogging software on via USB/clip a thingy between keyboard and computer.

All the best you'll be robusto soon -we'll see to that /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

munkey

4_2_it

01-05-2007, 10:34 AM

EMac,

/images/graemlins/frown.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Very sorry bro.

DJ_Northstar

01-05-2007, 11:16 AM

against a 2p2er after discussing 3betting light pf /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $28.20
CO: $14.30
Button: $10.10
SB: $22.50
hero: $72.50

Pre-flop: (5 players) hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG raises to $1, 3 folds, hero raises to $4, UTG raises all-in $28.2, hero calls.

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($56.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $56.5)

Turn: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif ($56.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $56.5)

River: 4/images/graemlins/club.gif ($56.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $56.5)

Results:
Final pot: $56.5
hero showed Ks Kh
UTG mucks 9c 9h

Everlong

01-05-2007, 11:18 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Kill me Please

Im busto and its not from playing (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8661221&an=0&page=0#Post 8661221)

[/ QUOTE ]

dude this sux soooo hard i cant imagine this happening to me. sigh. prolly a hint that i dont need 90 BIs for tha limit implayin and should take some off line.

i dont kno much about computers n [censored] but if u need n e thing and think i could send me a pm. (basically if u find out who did it and want me to go with u and beat their ass)

[/ QUOTE ]

+2 if you want some Euroland coverage.

Man eMc This sucks golfball thro hosepipe hard- I'm going to check my security and re distribute some of my bankroll. I hope FT and Stars support can track this down and see what happened.

PSA: Internet Security (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4837360&page=0&fpart=1&v c=1&nt=6)(from eMcs thread)

Important re: neteller (http://www.bet-the-pot.com/forum/poker-article14208.html&highlight=hack)(old thread)

BTW aren't you on a uni network - I known when I was at uni some dude who some friends knew bragged once about hacking peoples computers -but he told us he had to be in their room to put keylogging software on via USB/clip a thingy between keyboard and computer.

All the best you'll be robusto soon -we'll see to that /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

munkey

[/ QUOTE ]

agreeed this sucks and makes me sad. what a [censored] way to start the 2k7 pokeryear.

how about a fundraiser or something?

Like say those who chime in agree to donate our winnings on a certain day or whatever...

Quester

01-05-2007, 11:24 AM

Yucky. I officially berated a fish last night for the 1st time ever. Fish in hand #1 below was berating fish in hand #2 below for quite some time, then told me I "deserve to lose because you get good hands" and "I'm going to stack your ass."

Oh well, still ran at 22 PTBB/100 on the night.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($25.45)
BB ($20.85)
Hero ($37.70)
MP ($10.75)
CO ($13.65)
Button ($21.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Hero raises to $1, MP calls $1, 3 folds, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.5, MP calls $2.50, BB raises to $7, Hero raises to $36.7, MP folds, BB calls $12.85 (All-In).

Turn: ($62.15) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($62.15) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $62.15

Results in white below: 
BB has 5h 2h (two pair, fives and twos).
Hero has Ks Kd (one pair, kings).
Outcome: BB wins $45.30. Hero wins $16.85. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($26.75)
Button ($41.10)
Hero ($38.75)
BB ($6.70)
UTG ($20.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, BB calls $1, UTG folds.

Flop: ($2.75) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BB calls $2.

Turn: ($6.75) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3.45, BB calls $3.45 (All-In).

River: ($13.65) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $13.65

Results in white below: 
Hero has As Ac (one pair, aces).
BB has Js 3s (two pair, jacks and threes).
Outcome: BB wins $13.65.

TheCutter

01-05-2007, 11:33 AM

[ QUOTE ]
against a 2p2er after discussing 3betting light pf /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $28.20
CO: $14.30
Button: $10.10
SB: $22.50
hero: $72.50

Pre-flop: (5 players) hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG raises to $1, 3 folds, hero raises to $4, UTG raises all-in $28.2, hero calls.

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($56.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $56.5)

Turn: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif ($56.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $56.5)

River: 4/images/graemlins/club.gif ($56.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $56.5)

Results:
Final pot: $56.5
hero showed Ks Kh
UTG mucks 9c 9h

[/ QUOTE ]

ahh shut up lol

MortenTA

01-05-2007, 12:41 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Kill me Please

Im busto and its not from playing (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8661221&an=0&page=0#Post 8661221)

[/ QUOTE ]

wow.. this suck so bad.. Im sorry dude

jk1986

01-05-2007, 03:27 PM

jklj;akfjdskhgafdkjkjkj

Hand #37040113-116561 at Bellingham (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 05/Jan/07 14:08:17

allstar721 is at seat 0 with $18.70.
jk1986 is at seat 1 with $33.15.
Ghislain is at seat 2 with $15.50.
XMCWSterling is at seat 3 with $22.65.
mattyjay is at seat 4 with $14.25.
1meansob is at seat 5 with $28.50.
The button is at seat 1.

Ghislain posts the small blind of $.10.
XMCWSterling posts the big blind of $.25.

allstar721: -- --
jk1986: 8h 8d
Ghislain: -- --
XMCWSterling: -- --
mattyjay: -- --
1meansob: -- --

Pre-flop:

mattyjay folds. 1meansob calls. allstar721 folds.
jk1986 raises to $1.10. Ghislain folds.
XMCWSterling folds. 1meansob calls.

Flop (board: 8s Kh Ts):

1meansob bets $2.55. jk1986 raises to $10.20.
1meansob goes all-in for $27.40. jk1986 calls.

Turn (board: 8s Kh Ts Ac):

(no action in this round)

River (board: 8s Kh Ts Ac Td):

(no action in this round)

Showdown:

1meansob shows Tc Kc.
1meansob has Tc Kc Kh Ts Td: full house, tens full of kings.
jk1986 mucks cards.
(jk1986 has 8h 8d.)

Hand #37040113-116561 Summary:

$2.85 is raked from a pot of $57.35.
1meansob wins $54.50 with full house, tens full of kings.
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Anyone know where to get the online version of UB hh to use in the converter please?

checkmate36

01-05-2007, 05:32 PM

Imrahil

01-05-2007, 06:55 PM

I actually thought my AT was good or hand 6 outs here...I had been raising his limps a lot here.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($22.55)
UTG ($15)
Hero ($59.80)
Button ($50)
SB ($80.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.5, 3 folds, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.5, UTG raises to $7, Hero raises to $45.5, UTG calls $5.50 (All-In).

Turn: ($63.75) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($63.75) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $63.75

Results in white below: 
UTG has Jc Jh (two pair, jacks and eights).
Hero has Ac Th (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Hero wins $33. UTG wins $30.75.

kaz2107

01-05-2007, 07:10 PM

a check minraise on the flop is typically a good indicator that AT unimproved is not best /images/graemlins/smile.gif and especially when u dont have n e FE. villian is to short to fold so he is callin with 22 or AJ which absoltuly kills ur EV in this spot.

Imrahil

01-05-2007, 07:12 PM

[ QUOTE ]
a check minraise on the flop is typically a good indicator that AT unimproved is not best /images/graemlins/smile.gif and especially when u dont have n e FE. villian is to short to fold so he is callin with 22 or AJ which absoltuly kills ur EV in this spot.

[/ QUOTE ]

A little rush of blood to the head /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

kaz2107

01-05-2007, 07:13 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
a check minraise on the flop is typically a good indicator that AT unimproved is not best /images/graemlins/smile.gif and especially when u dont have n e FE. villian is to short to fold so he is callin with 22 or AJ which absoltuly kills ur EV in this spot.

[/ QUOTE ]

A little rush of blood to the head /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

[/ QUOTE ]
yea no worries. i hate those damn check minraises from short stacked fish.

terrible

01-05-2007, 07:24 PM

sup

started 25nl 6m a few days after playing sngs for a few months and the first thing that's surprised me is how little i'm getting paid off. i expected people to be pretty all over the place but everyone seems to be just folding constantly, i've played for my stack like 3 times in about 1000 hands. standard? variance? wtf? /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

kaz2107

01-05-2007, 07:39 PM

[ QUOTE ]
sup

started 25nl 6m a few days after playing sngs for a few months and the first thing that's surprised me is how little i'm getting paid off. i expected people to be pretty all over the place but everyone seems to be just folding constantly, i've played for my stack like 3 times in about 1000 hands. standard? variance? wtf? /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
probably varience but who knows. we cant tell a ton with just this post. assuming u arent playing only QQ+ and folding everything else u r prolly just runny crappy.

Imrahil

01-05-2007, 07:39 PM

I'm trying to become a GoldStar member this month so I'm playing a lot more. I've earned 806 FPPs in 3285 hands currently at SilverStar.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8105/5days50nltl7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

kaz2107

01-05-2007, 07:42 PM

how many tables?

u r in decent shape cuz once u get to silver or wutever is under gold u get 1.5x each point so once u make it to 1.5k points it starts goin a lot faster

Imrahil

01-05-2007, 07:44 PM

[ QUOTE ]
how many tables?

u r in decent shape cuz once u get to silver or wutever is under gold u get 1.5x each point so once u make it to 1.5k points it starts goin a lot faster

[/ QUOTE ]

I 4 table. I'm currently SilverStar right now so I already make 1.5x.

kaz2107

01-05-2007, 07:46 PM

i just looked and i dont even see silver as a choice n e more. did they get rid of that level from now on???

maybe u can b silver this last month and then there is no more silver star n e more. weird

Imrahil

01-05-2007, 07:48 PM

[ QUOTE ]
i just looked and i dont even see silver as a choice n e more. did they get rid of that level from now on???

maybe u can b silver this last month and then there is no more silver star n e more. weird

[/ QUOTE ]

Silver Star is still up there for me.

terrible

01-05-2007, 08:07 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
sup

started 25nl 6m a few days after playing sngs for a few months and the first thing that's surprised me is how little i'm getting paid off. i expected people to be pretty all over the place but everyone seems to be just folding constantly, i've played for my stack like 3 times in about 1000 hands. standard? variance? wtf? /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
probably varience but who knows. we cant tell a ton with just this post. assuming u arent playing only QQ+ and folding everything else u r prolly just runny crappy.

[/ QUOTE ]

stats are like 18/12. playing on stars and full tilt. oh well, i guess i have nothing to complain about since i'm not losing, just kinda confused at how passive everyone is so far.

jk1986

01-05-2007, 11:02 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
sup

started 25nl 6m a few days after playing sngs for a few months and the first thing that's surprised me is how little i'm getting paid off. i expected people to be pretty all over the place but everyone seems to be just folding constantly, i've played for my stack like 3 times in about 1000 hands. standard? variance? wtf? /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[/ QUOTE ]
probably varience but who knows. we cant tell a ton with just this post. assuming u arent playing only QQ+ and folding everything else u r prolly just runny crappy.

[/ QUOTE ]

stats are like 18/12. playing on stars and full tilt. oh well, i guess i have nothing to complain about since i'm not losing, just kinda confused at how passive everyone is so far.

[/ QUOTE ]

Where you playing?

jonyy6788

01-05-2007, 11:27 PM

[ QUOTE ]
how many tables?

u r in decent shape cuz once u get to silver or wutever is under gold u get 1.5x each point so once u make it to 1.5k points it starts goin a lot faster

[/ QUOTE ]

The points needed to attain a new level status are Base VPP's anyways. The 1.5x just allows you to use more at the FPP Store. I've calculated that to reach Platinum would be ~42k hands/month. You get about 24 base pts/100 hands at NL50!

jonyy6788

01-05-2007, 11:29 PM

[quote
Anyone know where to get the online version of UB hh to use in the converter please?

[/ QUOTE ]

this will help you (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=software&Number=8128608&f part=&PHPSESSID=)

acidca

01-05-2007, 11:47 PM

I started playing semi-seriously in november, and have been multitabling lightly and winning fairly consistently on pokerstars. In december I achieved GOLD status (played about 9k hands) and I decided that in the year 2007, I would get to the point where I actually had money for things.

I decided that this month I was going to:
a. Get to platinum status (pokerstars)
b. Make enough to buy a new laptop. 17'' so I can play 12+ tables. My current laptop is an 850 mhz pentium 3 with a 12'' screen (so bad).

I don't go back to school till the 12th, so I figured I could get a TON of hands in before then. On the 1st I was hung over as hell at my friend's house all day, so I started playing on the 2nd.

I ran pretty decently at first, 9-tabling. Usually 6-8 tables of .25/.50 fr, and possibly a multi or a couple tables of .5/1 fr. I'm not used to grinding a ton, but I don't mind it. Eventually I worked my bankroll up to 1800 and cashed $300 out. This was around hand 5700 - see graph.

Then... WTF???? I have been plummeting hardcore since then. I don't know what's going on. I ran really bad at my .5/1 tables and played some .5/1 6-max and ran really awful, but now I feel like my cards are pretty average, and I'm still doing badly.... someone hold me?

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/361/jan2jan52007yh1.jpg

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/53/statsjan1tojan5ng6.jpg

Also, I played some PL Omaha and lost $65 there, so I'm down over 10k hands. Someone lift my spirits please. FKIN CASHOUT CURSE!@$!(#U@#$

jk1986

01-06-2007, 12:57 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[quote
Anyone know where to get the online version of UB hh to use in the converter please?

[/ QUOTE ]

this will help you (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=software&Number=8128608&f part=&PHPSESSID=)

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Dastone

01-06-2007, 03:53 AM

Doesn't anybody check to the raiser anymore these days?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $21.05
UTG+1: $45
MP1: $31.15
MP2: $9.15
Hero: $17.05
CO: $26.65
Button: $55.50
SB: $40.40
BB: $25.55

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, SB calls, 3 folds.

Flop: A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($3.25, 2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $8, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $6 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $7.25

Archon_Wing

01-06-2007, 04:17 AM

W00t! 9th place in the Absolute 3R for $130. Unfortunately went card dead and a huge suck out (had set in a multiway pot, but the running flush had to happen. -_-; lol donkmaments. /images/graemlins/wink.gif It'd be nice to get a better prize but I suppose I had my fair share of suckouts.

Spleen

01-06-2007, 04:33 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I started playing semi-seriously in november, and have been multitabling lightly and winning fairly consistently on pokerstars. In december I achieved GOLD status (played about 9k hands) and I decided that in the year 2007, I would get to the point where I actually had money for things.

I decided that this month I was going to:
a. Get to platinum status (pokerstars)
b. Make enough to buy a new laptop. 17'' so I can play 12+ tables. My current laptop is an 850 mhz pentium 3 with a 12'' screen (so bad).

I don't go back to school till the 12th, so I figured I could get a TON of hands in before then. On the 1st I was hung over as hell at my friend's house all day, so I started playing on the 2nd.

I ran pretty decently at first, 9-tabling. Usually 6-8 tables of .25/.50 fr, and possibly a multi or a couple tables of .5/1 fr. I'm not used to grinding a ton, but I don't mind it. Eventually I worked my bankroll up to 1800 and cashed $300 out. This was around hand 5700 - see graph.

Then... WTF???? I have been plummeting hardcore since then. I don't know what's going on. I ran really bad at my .5/1 tables and played some .5/1 6-max and ran really awful, but now I feel like my cards are pretty average, and I'm still doing badly.... someone hold me?

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/361/jan2jan52007yh1.jpg

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/53/statsjan1tojan5ng6.jpg

Also, I played some PL Omaha and lost $65 there, so I'm down over 10k hands. Someone lift my spirits please. FKIN CASHOUT CURSE!@$!(#U@#$

[/ QUOTE ]

15 buy in downswing to complete a 30k breakeven stretch here. All you can do is try and stay positive and try not to smash anything. 10k hands of breakeven happens to good players even so don't sweat it. Dont hit the panic button yet and post some hands , get a different point of view.

terrible

01-06-2007, 05:57 AM

[ QUOTE ]

Where you playing?

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[ QUOTE ]
playing on stars and full tilt.

[/ QUOTE ]

kaz2107

01-06-2007, 06:23 AM

[censored] poker... heres a couple hands that sum up my night of donkyness SIGH

reads... villian is a huge fish calling station and i have a note on him that says "loves to call over bets with mediocre hands:)"

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($85)
Button ($18.30)
Hero ($108.45)
BB ($42)
UTG ($33.65)
MP ($15.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG raises to $2, 3 folds, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, UTG calls $5.

Flop: ($14.50) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $11, UTG raises to $26.65, Hero calls $15.65.

Turn: ($67.80) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)

River: ($67.80) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $67.80

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ac Ad (two pair, aces and queens).
UTG has 9c 9s (full house, nines full of queens).
Outcome: UTG wins $67.80. 

This hand is against the SAME VILLIAN!!! seriously WTF he shouldnt even have n e money. BAH

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SB ($76.85)
Hero ($89.70)
UTG ($48.50)
Button ($69.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, Hero raises to $2.5, Button calls $2, SB folds.

Flop: ($5.50) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $4, Button calls $4.

Turn: ($13.50) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($13.50) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $83.2 (All-In), Button calls $62.75 (All-In).

Final Pot: $159.45

Results in white below: 
Hero has 7h 7c (full house, sevens full of fives).
Button has 4d 6d (straight flush, seven high).
Outcome: Button wins $139. Hero wins $20.45. 

and after this hand he goes on to instruct me on how i "need to bet more to get rid of people in the hand or i wont b able to win at poker" ORLY

this hand i had been sitting with villian for like 20 hands and he seemed like a decent lag who was capable of folding TP typ hands when he needs. clearly i suck at getting reads as i couldnt have been more wrong /images/graemlins/mad.gif

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SB ($121.15)
Hero ($50.50)
UTG ($60.50)
Button ($50.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
2 folds, SB raises to $2, Hero raises to $7, SB calls $5.

Flop: ($14) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9, SB calls $9.

Turn: ($32) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25, SB raises to $50, Hero calls $9.50 (All-In).

River: ($116.50) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $116.50

Results in white below: 
SB has Jc Td (two pair, jacks and sixes).
Hero has Qh Ac (one pair, sixes).
Outcome: SB wins $116.50.

Dastone

01-06-2007, 06:46 AM

I think you got owned in the last hand. Villain ain't going nowhere on the 2nd one, but that is a horrible set up, so my condolences, and the first one is pretty sucky too. hang in there.

eigenvalue

01-06-2007, 09:00 AM

Is it possible to fix this thread on top of the Micro Stakes
Forum? It's one of the most importand threads and should be fixed on the top.

eigenvalue

01-06-2007, 09:03 AM

Sorry, I took the wrong thread. My comment belonged to the uNL Video thread.

SavageMiser

01-06-2007, 09:04 AM

Don't count on stickies, just use the favorite thread toggle.

Genz

01-06-2007, 11:17 AM

Damn it, why does this site always go down? It's exactly at 11:20 am GMT+1 (=MET), i.e. 5:20 am ET that these forums are unavailable every day. Is the backup kicking in or what? It usually lasts quite long. Like 20 minutes or so. Whole twoplustwo.com isn't responding then. Anyone know anything? And I'm always trying to post a response to something that is then lost. Suxx0rs

checkmate36

01-06-2007, 12:08 PM

So I watched Istrong's video and thought I would try some 6max. Just waiting for big hands and then value bet. Nothing fancy. So on the river my quad kings gets raised all in. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($2.99)
MP ($5.55)
CO ($2.87)
Button ($2.20)
SB ($1.04)
BB ($5)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
Hero raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Button calls $0.06, 2 folds.

Flop: ($0.15) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.1, Button calls $0.10.

Turn: ($0.35) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.3, Button calls $0.30.

River: ($0.95) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.5, Button raises to $1.74, Hero calls $1.24.

Final Pot: $4.43

Hero has Ah Kc (four of a kind, kings).
Button has Qc 8c (full house, kings full of queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $4.43.

My bankroll should hit $500 sometime over the weekend. Thats if my cards don't shut down like they did all last week. $500 is a minor goal that I have been working towards.

Imrahil

01-06-2007, 12:40 PM

TY kaz for that checking behind advice:

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UTG ($27.90)
MP ($71.40)
Hero ($50.70)
Button ($48.95)
SB ($191.80)
BB ($32.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($10.25) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero calls $8.

Final Pot: $26.25

Results in white below: 
BB has Jh Td (high card, queen).
Hero has Kc Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $26.25.

Messiahkid

01-06-2007, 12:46 PM

Anyone have the link to the thread on setting up/using camtasia?

Thanks

Triggerle

01-06-2007, 12:52 PM

What an expensive waste of 3 hours (check awesome W$SD):

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/8480/sessionlb9.gif

kaz2107

01-06-2007, 02:04 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Damn it, why does this site always go down? It's exactly at 11:20 am GMT+1 (=MET), i.e. 5:20 am ET that these forums are unavailable every day. Is the backup kicking in or what? It usually lasts quite long. Like 20 minutes or so. Whole twoplustwo.com isn't responding then. Anyone know anything? And I'm always trying to post a response to something that is then lost. Suxx0rs

[/ QUOTE ]

yea this pissed me off to. i run like [censored] for 3 hours last night and break even and then try to come on here and vent [censored] 2p2 wont even load up.

jonyy6788

01-06-2007, 02:07 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Anyone have the link to the thread on setting up/using camtasia?

Thanks

[/ QUOTE ]

CamStudio directions here...it's free

Directions (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=headsup&Number=3718549&fp art=&PHPSESSID=)

kaz2107

01-06-2007, 02:07 PM

[ QUOTE ]
TY kaz for that checking behind advice:

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UTG ($27.90)
MP ($71.40)
Hero ($50.70)
Button ($48.95)
SB ($191.80)
BB ($32.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($10.25) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero calls $8.

Final Pot: $26.25

Results in white below: 
BB has Jh Td (high card, queen).
Hero has Kc Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $26.25. 

[/ QUOTE ]

holla balla. inducing a bluff is tha nutz /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Tickner

01-06-2007, 02:24 PM

Hey guys,

I've been a SSNL poster for about 7 months or so now, and I've been playing NL Hold'em exclusively since then. I have a blog, legopoker.com.

I am going to offer free coaching to one or two students whom play $25NL -> $50NL. Coaching sessions would involve us talking about any poker ideas/theories/hand histories, on skype or AIM. Also, once per week we will have a sweat session where I watch you play and see how your game evolves/improves/etc.

I've never coached before, although I've been coached by some of the top MSNL players.

Why Free?
Lately I've been a break even player @ my normal stakes $200 NL. Coaching you helps both our games because I will be thinking critically, analytically, and will get to take a break from my normal stakes to observe how players play at the lower levels. This should get my head back into thinking about poker correctly, which will help me to win at my own level, while hopefully helping your game also.

To "apply" for this, just throw me a PM, and within a few days I will select at least one, maybe two players.

terrible

01-06-2007, 07:51 PM

ended a decent day with these two hands within 1 min 30 of eachother.

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BB ($21.50)
UTG ($35.35)
MP ($26)
Button ($32.70)
Hero ($29)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG raises to $2, MP calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, 1 fold, UTG calls $8, MP folds.

Flop: ($22.25) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $19 (All-In), UTG calls $19.

Turn: ($60.25) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($60.25) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $60.25

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kc Kh (full house, aces full of kings).
UTG has Ad 6c (four of a kind, aces).
Outcome: UTG wins $60.25. 

^ looser than a whore ftr

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Button ($25)
Hero ($23.15)
BB ($22.55)
UTG ($23.20)
MP ($22.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $0.5, Button raises to $2.25, Hero calls $2.15, 1 fold, MP calls $1.75.

Flop: ($7) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $20.45 (All-In), Button folds, Hero calls $20.45.

Turn: ($47.90) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($47.90) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $47.90

Results in white below: 
Hero has 8d 8s (three of a kind, eights).
MP has Kc Qh (flush, ace high).
Outcome: MP wins $47.90. 

incidentally the two biggest pots i've played since i started cash 3 days ago. looking at it i played that first hand horribly i think but villain was probably the worst player i've seen so far.