$50nl 6m: Maximizing FE ?

[netstorm]

Villain was 23/11/4 over a small sample size, ~40 hands. In these hands, he has seen me make a lot of cbets, and taken down small pots. He also once c/r my cbet, but folded to my 3bet push, so he is either able to make bluffs, or lay down big hands. How is my play on the flop??

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($92.18)
MP ($156.45)
Button ($59.65)
Hero ($67.30)
BB ($33.56)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $2.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($5.50) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $15</font>, Hero calls $61.05 (All-In)

[the_muppeteer]

Don't think you have much FE, I would call this flop and go for a free turn card instead. Depends on villian of course, but if you allready have reraised him out of 1 pot before, he probably wouldnt have raised you on this flop unless he had something.

[Jouster777]

OOP with what looks like a 12 out (maybe even 15 out) combo draw I like the push here unless you have a read that villain is particularly passive or underbets his made hands. FE may not be great but is probably at least 30% - more than enough.

[netstorm]

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Don't think you have much FE, I would call this flop and go for a free turn card instead. Depends on villian of course, but if you allready have reraised him out of 1 pot before, he probably wouldnt have raised you on this flop unless he had something.

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Why would I just call his raise? He's not giving me the odds to catch my gut or flush (or pair?), and he probably wont pay me off when I hit him, right?

[otenke]

I do this too, but I am starting to wonder if its the best line. I get called by AJ/KJ every time here lol.

[mack848]

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I do this too, but I am starting to wonder if its the best line. I get called by AJ/KJ every time here lol.

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Pokerstove

Hand 1: 46.2% {KdTd)
Hand 2: 53.8% {JJ+, 99, 44, AJs, AJo}

Given the dead money, I like the push, even with little FE.

[Genz]

I don't like the raise preflop but I like the flop play.

[ticks]

I like everything.

[lsaw2]

I like, If only he'd raised to 10 or 12.

Come on Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif's

[Sir Winalot]

This is really goot.

[Abramovic]

Dont think I like the preflop play.

Flop play is perfect.

[CobraGoat]

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I don't like the raise preflop but I like the flop play.

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indeed.

[Sweir]

I think flop is good, even if you have little FE it is still +EV.

[Messiahkid]

Flop looks good to me, preflop is debatable.

[the_muppeteer]

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Don't think you have much FE, I would call this flop and go for a free turn card instead. Depends on villian of course, but if you allready have reraised him out of 1 pot before, he probably wouldnt have raised you on this flop unless he had something.

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Why would I just call his raise? He's not giving me the odds to catch my gut or flush (or pair?), and he probably wont pay me off when I hit him, right?

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What I meant is that you probably won't make him fold this, if you allready have reraised him out of a pot during the 40 hands you have played against him, he hasn't forgot it.

Not saying that this line is crap, just that I don't think you have much FE

[Jigsaws]

Preflop meh. Okay once in a while.

Flop standard.

[netstorm]

I understand preflop is debatable, but he limped UTG, meaning I could narrow down his range a bit, right? He would probably have raised with either JJ or 99. I just dont like to openlimp from the SB when there's one limper. Should this be a fold/call preflop then ?

[Rev. Good Will]

I'm getting a bit mubs'y right now cause I put villian on exclusively 44/maybe 99 right now with that limp/call preflop (usually with pocket pairs there) combined with the pot size raise... I don't think we have any FE here

[monkeymaps]

I think raise is ok if you have a good read on villian most likely hands prob are 22-99 AXs what most TAGish player limps in with.

Love flop.

[nuts]

I'm not sure if you gain much by raising preflop. I don't think you'll take it down very often, and will just end up playing a big pot out of position.

[netstorm]

Results:

Villain had J9s for top2pair and called my push. I turned my flush, he didnt fill up and MHIG. Was quite interesting to see his actual hand, and in hindsight it actually made some sense, even though I feel limping a suited one gapper UTG is a leak.