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_TKO_
12-29-2006, 04:43 AM
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $52.50
Hero: $133.15
Button: $56.75
SB: $53.60
BB: $50

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($4.25, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls.

Turn: T/images/graemlins/club.gif ($10.25, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $15</font>, Hero...
blackize
12-29-2006, 07:06 AM
Shove. He probably put you on AK or big unpaired cards like they always do and floated your flop bet with something like AT. You have like the 5th nuts and are likely to be paid off by a worse 5, a decent T, or a flush draw.
Genz
12-29-2006, 07:13 AM
Push. You are going to SD anyway. And if you don't push here, he will on the river.
Sir Winalot
12-29-2006, 09:41 AM
Easy shove.
Jouster777
12-29-2006, 09:50 AM
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And if you don't push here, he will on the river.

[/ QUOTE ] This seems like an argument to call here. I think a FD is a very small part of villain's range (&lt;&lt;KT/AT/5x)...why is everyone so quick to push since we are IP? I think a push lets KT/AT off the hook as he'll put you on JJ+ and fold and if he has 5x it doesn't matter either way.
CobraGoat
12-29-2006, 10:15 AM
yes, shove the turn.

You can't call and then hope for shove on river.
Jigsaws
12-29-2006, 10:50 AM
Calling is fine if he's aggro and can fold, pushing is fine if he can't fold. Doesn't matter much either way. Get it in.
higher_energy
12-29-2006, 11:13 AM
re raise here is pretty standard no?
Genz
12-29-2006, 12:19 PM
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And if you don't push here, he will on the river.

[/ QUOTE ] This seems like an argument to call here. I think a FD is a very small part of villain's range (&lt;&lt;KT/AT/5x)...why is everyone so quick to push since we are IP? I think a push lets KT/AT off the hook as he'll put you on JJ+ and fold and if he has 5x it doesn't matter either way.

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If he is on the flushdraw, he won't push / call if he doesn't hit. If you call his big bet, he probably gets nervous with a hand that you suggest he might fold to a push. So he won't make a big bet on the river or call a push anyway, unless you know he likes to bluff or is very suspicious. In the latter case, he might call the turn push, because he thinks you might be semi-bluffing. I think a push on the turn has more potential to be called while the trips are ahead.