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12-28-2006, 11:57 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($21.55)
Button ($9.05)
SB ($9.75)
BB ($5.10)
UTG ($4.10)
UTG+1 ($4.90)
MP1 ($5.95)
MP2 ($10.25)
Hero ($5.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.3, CO raises to $0.7, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.55) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2, CO raises to $4, Hero ...?

Unknown Soldier

12-29-2006, 12:03 AM

fold pf, A3s is not strong enough here as played I'd call his min-raise pf

flop is fine and just call his min re-raise, looks like he has a Q here

superadvisor

12-29-2006, 12:12 AM

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fold pf, A3s is not strong enough here as played I'd call his min-raise pf

flop is fine and just call his min re-raise, looks like he has a Q here

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Drawing to 9 outs the call is pretty simple but if he has a queen then you are only drawing to 7 outs because 2 of your flush outs give him a full house, you're getting about 3.75 to 1 on a call drawing to a 5.7 to 1 flush. Also notice if hero calls this raise he will only have 2 dollars left so if he does hit his flush, he will not get any value out of it.

Unknown Soldier

12-29-2006, 12:15 AM

ture, I should really look at stack sizes before answering /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I figured his implied odds were good, yeah fold, and OP reload to $10

superadvisor

12-29-2006, 12:18 AM

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ture, I should really look at stack sizes before answering /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I figured his implied odds were good, yeah fold, and OP reload to $10

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Hehe.

Well the call is still shady but do you really put him on a queen? If you don't put him on a queen, maybe he has pocket 8's then you're drawing to your flush plus 3 ace outs.

Unknown Soldier

12-29-2006, 12:20 AM

8s? no, KK+ maybe, but not too often.

Of course reads could say otherwise..

superadvisor

12-29-2006, 12:34 AM

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8s? no, KK+ maybe, but not too often.

Of course reads could say otherwise..

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KK still gives you flush draw plus 3 ace outs /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Unknown Soldier

12-29-2006, 12:41 AM

yeah true, but the point is that hes never (hardly ever) doing this with a pair less then QQ (QQ is v. unlikely though) so that means that less of the time you have 9 outs because KK and AA are only 2 hands. Plus it's a strange way to play AA/KK I'd imagine co just calling your c/r on the flop.