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TurtlePiss

12-28-2006, 07:23 AM

These are some of the first hands with these 'villains,' so reads are pretty much non-existant.

I beat NL10 easily but when I try a shot at 25NL I lose. Part of this is running bad (KK v. AA pf, etc.), but I'm afraid I might have some leaks. Is there anything I should have done differently in these hands?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

MP ($32.85)
Button ($63.30)
Hero ($25)
BB ($100.95)
UTG ($32.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($1.50) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, BB calls $1.25.

Turn: ($4) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2, Hero calls $2.

River: ($8) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25.

Final Pot: $14.50

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

CO ($35.05)
Button ($30)
SB ($64.95)
Hero ($26.75)
UTG ($84.65)
MP ($21.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, MP raises to $1.1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.65, UTG folds, MP calls $2.55.

Flop: ($7.65) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6, MP calls All-In $17.95, Hero calls $11.95.

Turn: ($19.65) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

River: ($19.65) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $19.65

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

UTG ($36.95)
MP ($29.90)
CO ($65.15)
Hero ($28)
SB ($34.10)
BB ($31.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($1.95) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.6, SB calls $1.60.

Turn: ($5.15) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB raises to $8, Hero calls $4.

River: ($21.15) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero calls $10.

Final Pot: $41.15

Sir Winalot

12-28-2006, 07:32 AM

1) 1 preflop and I'd usually check flop, but c-betting is fine too. River is probably a close fold but I don't mind the call.
2) Good, the board is so draw heavy that I wouldn't fold here. Preflop raise size is good too.
3) 4bb+1bb per limper preflop, so 4bb here. I'd usually bet closer to pot on flop but no biggie. Turn I'd usually 3-bet AI.

Edit, for future reference: could you post the hands one at a time. You'll get more answers and more accurate advice.

TurtlePiss

12-28-2006, 07:36 AM

Yes, and thank you.

Bort99

12-28-2006, 07:38 AM

There are all close and played more or less fine.

bozzer

12-28-2006, 07:53 AM

Hand 1
Hero is SB with TT.

A WA/WB situation. Looks fine, but you could check-call the flop rather than c-betting against a fairly aggressive opponent (see the recent thread on this).

Hand 2
Hero is BB with AKs.

Preflop it's close regarding the raise into two players, especially since the MP tacked on an extra .1 to a 4BB raise, but wth, go for it, it's as good a hand as any. Post flop it's a call. Don't really need to see turn and river.

Hand 3
Hero is Button with QQ.

Is this your standard raise preflop? If it is, fine, but I hope you didn't lower it because you wanted a call.

I would actually fold turn.

monkover

12-28-2006, 07:59 AM

1st hand: come out betting on the flop if you´re going to call anyway!! You get a lot more information that way. if he raises fold (i´d raise a bit more preflop)

2nd hand: looks fine to me

3rd hand: standard

TurtlePiss

12-28-2006, 08:01 AM

I use the "bet pot" button (which is 3.5xBB with no limpers), which is $.85.

TurtlePiss

12-28-2006, 08:05 AM

[ QUOTE ]
1st hand: come out betting on the flop if you´re going to call anyway!! You get a lot more information that way. if he raises fold (i´d raise a bit more preflop)

2nd hand: looks fine to me

3rd hand: standard

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I did bet the flop. I assume you meant the turn. In that case, I wanted to keep the pot small with 2nd pair, so I figure c/c is better than leading for ~3/4 pot and facing a possible raise.

Active Apathy

12-28-2006, 12:26 PM

[ QUOTE ]
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1st hand: come out betting on the flop if you´re going to call anyway!! You get a lot more information that way. if he raises fold (i´d raise a bit more preflop)

2nd hand: looks fine to me

3rd hand: standard

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I did bet the flop. I assume you meant the turn. In that case, I wanted to keep the pot small with 2nd pair, so I figure c/c is better than leading for ~3/4 pot and facing a possible raise.

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In hand #1, are people firing at the pot again on the turn? I would, then c/f most rivers, so I am wondering if that is bad.

4_2_it

12-28-2006, 12:31 PM

None of these hands contains a 'large error'.

uNL large errors include include being too loose in completing/defending blinds and playing drawing hands like 76s HU in raised pots OOP.

kurto

12-28-2006, 12:39 PM

I only wanted to comment/question hand 3-

Do you have any read? Though I often make the mistake of calling the minraise.... you know the minraise means a large bet on the river. I think the decision needs to be made then. And that's why a read is helpful.

The turn minraise is SO typical of a flopped set. If this player is non-laggy and straightforward you can consider folding the reraise.

All I'm saying is.... the mistakes lesson with reads. And his play is pretty typical of a lot of people's monsters.