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TheCutter
12-28-2006, 07:21 AM
I was lost in this hand - no data on CO, SB an absolute fish.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $27.10
UTG+1: $18.30
CO: $26.20
Button: $11.95
SB: $20.80
Hero: $25

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $0.75</font>, Button folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.75</font>, UTG folds, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($8.5, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5</font>, CO folds, SB calls.

Turn: J/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($18.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: K/images/graemlins/club.gif ($18.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $0.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ???</font>

Sir Winalot
12-28-2006, 07:35 AM
I wouldn't c-bet here against 2 villains. As played, I think you must call river with these odds. If he's a fish, this'll be a bluff often enough.

bozzer
12-28-2006, 07:39 AM
I like the raise pre-flop, but I would raise more - to $3 at least.

River is a must call since you can be wrong more than 19/20 times and still be making money, everything else is completely correct IMO.

monkover
12-28-2006, 08:06 AM
As already said before: you have to call the river because of the odds youre getting on your call!!
If you win 1 in 24,6 times youll break even and thiss will always be the case

Bort99
12-28-2006, 08:19 AM
He probably has an underpair, and yeah, you call. Bluffing the river would be dumb.

The OOP preflop 3-bet with AQ is a matter of heated controversy at the moment.

sawedust
12-28-2006, 08:28 AM
Easy call.

homeslice
12-28-2006, 08:40 AM
You'll save money in the long run, not c-betting w/air in multiway pots.

TheCutter
12-28-2006, 11:46 AM
How about a very small raise here - he'll fold his low pocket pairs and pairs of 2's or 3's to it (as he is a huge fish) - like to $5 - anyone like that?

BukNaked36
12-28-2006, 01:22 PM
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How about a very small raise here - he'll fold his low pocket pairs and pairs of 2's or 3's to it (as he is a huge fish) - like to $5 - anyone like that?

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If you really wanted to push him out, I think you'd have to get into the $10 - $12 neighborhood, but after your turn check, I think he's pretty set on looking you up on this one. Bluff would likely just be spew at this point.

Realistically, what are you repping at this point? If you had AK you would have bet the turn.

TexRef
12-28-2006, 01:30 PM
If I do c-bet the flop and he calls and then checks, I'm betting the turn on that board as well -- it is very possible that he called with a medium pair on that flop -- and a bet on the turn is likely to get rid of him. And you have 10 outs if he calls, as I would figure that an A and Q are prob good and a 10 definitely is.

As played, you have to call the river, if nothing else than for information. It's most likely a small pair or King-low.

Bort99
12-28-2006, 01:44 PM
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How about a very small raise here - he'll fold his low pocket pairs and pairs of 2's or 3's to it (as he is a huge fish) - like to $5 - anyone like that?

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It's something I would try, and then I would flush I $5 bill down the toilet so I would remember what I'd done wrong.

AceLuby
12-28-2006, 01:45 PM
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He probably has an underpair, and yeah, you call. Bluffing the river would be dumb.

The OOP preflop 3-bet with AQ is a matter of heated controversy at the moment.

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I've been experimenting w/ just calling PF in these situations. What I have found is that you rarely get put on as strong a hand when you do hit something like TPTK or top 2. Also, unless I feel CO is raising light (he's raised the last 3/4 hands) I will call because a reraise rarely takes down the pot PF (which is what I want) and we will be OOP in a fairly large pot when we hit only 30% of the time. Turns out it's mutltiway to boot... Plus I don't feel the need to c-bet missed flops. I just feel that I can win the most and risk the least, esp since I'm confident in my postflop play.