50NL - AKs TPTK

[Abramovic]

Had no read on villain. It stunk of a draw to me, combined with the fact he was a little short stacked makes this an easy call or a tough call?

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($10.5, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in $35.25</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

[barryc83]

Draw or set probably, maybe some idiot w/ KQ/KJ. It's tough w/ no read honestly. Flip a coin dude. I'd call here in game though.

[KLJ]

yes, good

[munkey]

I often call here - his over push may be a set/2pair but it could also be a QQ- type hand, PP, weak Kx that is overbetting to make you fold or a draw.

If villan is bluffhappy I often see Kx or flush draws.

tbh I think whatever you do is fine - choose the variance route of youre choice...

[Disconnected]

I know I make a call here, but in thinking it through, there seems to be more reasons to fold vs. an unknown than to call. Two pair seems really unlikely, and he can't really have a TP+draw hand (or even MP+draw). So, do we figure that an unknown is going to make such a big over-raise with a worse king or just a FD? I don't know.

The fact that he's shortstacked makes it an easier call to me -- better pot odds, and I don't have to worry about his implied odds if he is playing a draw.

[Chrysiptera]

5x the BB! Wow.. That seems like a big preflop raise to me.. Ok. He just called though; I think if he had kings he would have raised it up..

So on the flop I don't think he has a set of kings; a set of 8s is more likely. However, IMHO, he has AQs of spades..

IMHO a good call.

-Chry

[SCBielski]

If this is of any reassurance, I call. I just can't see him not trying to get value with a set. Call and pray for no spades, holla.

[InfectorGadget]

Do we care that he doesnt seem scared of the two other players in the hand is left to act after he bet? If so, would this lead us to think he is more likely on a draw or has a strong made hand?

I guess I call this ingame, much money in there already and there is hands we beat/flip with here (Kx, draws, middle pair hands)

[emon87]

I'm definitely calling this as it happens.


I think most people play for more value (ie, raise a reasonable amount) with a hand that you're losing to.

[Sir Winalot]

Calling seems fine.

[Fiksdal]

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5x the BB! Wow.. That seems like a big preflop raise to me..


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4bb + 1bb for the limper is the standard amount dude.

I think it's pretty marginal, but I think I'd call this. Can't say folding is horrible either.

[Sykes]

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5x the BB! Wow.. That seems like a big preflop raise to me..


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4bb + 1bb for the limper is the standard amount dude.

I think it's pretty marginal, but I think I'd call this. Can't say folding is horrible either.

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I think folding this is quite bad getting 2 to 1.

Board: Ks 8s 5c
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 60.8754 % 50.84% 10.04% { AKo }
Hand 2: 39.1246 % 29.09% 10.04% { 88, 55, AKs, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, KJs+, AKo, KJo+ }


equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 51.2468 % 37.36% 13.89% { AKo }
Hand 2: 48.7532 % 34.87% 13.89% { 88, 55, AKs, AsQs, AsJs, KQs, AKo, KQo }


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Board: Ks 8s 5c
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 36.3131 % 16.36% 19.95% { AKo }
Hand 2: 63.6869 % 43.74% 19.95% { 88, 55, AKs, AsQs, KQs, AKo }