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bazza22
12-27-2006, 03:59 PM
With the benefit of hindsight I realise a fold would save me from being put in this position, do i throw away bottom set against two tight villains?
Full Tilt Poker
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
4 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (BB): $31.75
UTG: $35.45
BTN: $23.90
SB: $37.5

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($0.35, 4 players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.85</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $3</font>, Hero calls $2.75, UTG calls $2.15

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif ($9, 3 players)
<font color="red">SB bets all in for $34.60</font>, Hero calls all in for $29, UTG calls all in for $32.45

Sir Winalot
12-27-2006, 04:02 PM
Easy fold preflop. As played, call for sure.

LOwrestling2001
12-27-2006, 04:03 PM
as played, i would call the all ins, if the villains are tight, i would put them on over pairs QQ-AA, pretty unlikely for either of them to have flopped any sort of straight.

Mercman572
12-27-2006, 04:04 PM
Definitely fold preflop. Never fold this flop. Come on, how likely is a set or straight given the raise and reraise preflop?. The answer is: Not enough to fold.

TJgniL
12-27-2006, 04:05 PM
I'm never folding this. SB usually has TT+ or AKc. You didn't know that UTG was going to call... could be w/ 78, FD, or overs.

barryc83
12-27-2006, 04:14 PM
set=teh nizzles. Arrrrrrrrrrrr in

bazza22
12-27-2006, 04:18 PM
Thanks for the above, hate to be a pain but have one more query! To a $1/$2 bet pre flop would i call with 33's?

barryc83
12-27-2006, 04:29 PM
I wouldn't call no matter what here. The initial raise is from UTG (which signals strength) then the SB repops it, you call, well what's to say UTG doesn't RR the SB here, then you just threw away 10% of your stack.

Messiahkid
12-27-2006, 04:47 PM
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I wouldn't call no matter what here. The initial raise is from UTG (which signals strength) then the SB repops it, you call, well what's to say UTG doesn't RR the SB here, then you just threw away 10% of your stack.

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I assume you are talking about preflop, if so I agree.

Fold preflop, but as played... ARRRR IN

jd2b2006
12-27-2006, 05:44 PM
Fold preflop since UTG can repop behind you. As played, get all your money in the middle and feel good about it.

Bring_Me_Down
12-27-2006, 06:02 PM
Questionable pf play. GC @ floP!

Mercman572
12-27-2006, 06:05 PM
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Thanks for the above, hate to be a pain but have one more query! To a $1/$2 bet pre flop would i call with 33's?

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Use your judgement on calling raises with small pocket pairs so long as you have to call somewhere between 3% and 8% of your stack.

King Spew
12-27-2006, 06:28 PM
But doesn't the 5/10 rule get a little skewed here with two opponents, instead of only have odds to hit against one? I'm thinking you can call 10% pretty easily, especially agaist straight-forward tighties.

Mercman572
12-27-2006, 06:30 PM
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But doesn't the 5/10 rule get a little skewed here with two opponents, instead of only have odds to hit against one? I'm thinking you can call 10% pretty easily, especially agaist straight-forward tighties.

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5/10 rule was SOOOOO 3 months ago. And actually, I'd be LESS inclined to call a higher % multiway. This is because straight-forward tighties get more concerned facing aggression multiway, and you have a high probability of geting over setted.

poker_n00b
12-27-2006, 06:35 PM
wtf, why are you calling preflop? your hand is likely not to be best and u dont have implied set odds.