AKs. R/r or call against this guy?

[michaelantoi]

Villain is 36/9/2 over 85 hands.

Reraise or call the flop here?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $49.95
CO: $27.45
Hero: $59.80
SB: $44.75
BB: $16.10

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $6.5</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 7/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($13.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $15</font>, Hero ??

[Sir Winalot]

Preflop, ok. Flop looks like an easy fold.

[martijn]

uhm, this is a obvious fold...or am I missing something?

[michaelantoi]

Oh, I only care about pf.

should have deleted the rest.

[Javanewt]

I'd either call pre-flop or fold. Definite fold to flop bet.

Yes, I fold AKs to re-raises like this--flame away. I lose with it way too often.

[Bring_Me_Down]

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I'd either call pre-flop or fold. Definite fold to flop bet.

Yes, I fold AKs to re-raises like this--flame away. I lose with it way too often.

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Hmm, thats so weak to fold AK suited to pf reraise. Thats easy call, i might even reraise him pf with little different stats. But foldin AKs to pf reraise is ridiculously weak.

Flop is easy fold.

[barryc83]

This is standard. Folding AKs from the button after a RR from the blinds is ridiculously weak. Bad flop, fold. I don't mind a 4bet here sometimes, because you're raise just looks like a BTN open raise w/ anything really.

[Javanewt]

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Folding AKs from the button after a RR from the blinds is ridiculously weak.

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It's not a re-raise from the blinds, it's from UTG. I guess I lose more often than most with AK, even suited, but 4-betting a re-raise from UTG with AKs is not a situation I want to get into. I might call and hope for a good flop, which didn't happen here.

[Abramovic]

UTG calls and then raises. What sort of hands do that but AA and KK? I normally call preflop, which is probably why AK is a big loser for me..

[barryc83]

Yeah I'm an idiot. I didn't see that it was a limp/raise from UTG. I still might call though with position. I've seen some funny things at this 50nl at PS, min RR w/ TT pf, limp/RR w/ JJ, and other crazy stuff. You're getting 2:1 on the call pf, so the real question is does he have to have KK/AA here, or would he do this w/ JJ, QQ also? In game, I'd probably call, but I don't know if I should. B/c even if you hit you won't get much more out of him and could get stacked if you hit and he has a big PP. The more I think about it the more I lean towards folding.

[Bring_Me_Down]

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I didn't see that it was a limp/raise from UTG.

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Me neither.

I should delete my [censored] posts in this thread.