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pokerman37

01-03-2006, 02:06 AM

So is this an easy fold most of the time? No reads. Thanks in advance.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

SB ($102.09)
BB ($97.45)
Hero ($50)
Button ($78.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $5.7, SB folds, BB calls $5.70.

Turn: ($17.40) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB calls $10.

River: ($37.40) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $35, Hero ???

stu-unger

01-03-2006, 02:10 AM

when donks c/c, c/c, pot the river it tends to destroy 1 pair. this is a standard fold w/out a read...

pokerman37

01-03-2006, 02:12 AM

ok ty

HoldenFoldem

01-03-2006, 02:14 AM

What do ya put him on. 45 trying to hit an inside straight and getting it on the river, after calling a $10 bet on turn...i don't think so.
No reads for you, but none for him either, so he doesn't know if you will fold to a large bluff bet, which i think unlikely .
I always look at these situations by stating the obvious: "He can obviously beat top pair" (that's you isn't it)
I have to put him on a set. I don't think its an overpair because of the size of the river bet. I don't like his river bet because you are unlikely to call that large a bet, and probably would have called 1/2 pot to increase his total return.
that's my best guess. Let us know how it ended.

ericicecream

01-03-2006, 02:17 AM

With no reads I don't think it is an easy fold. What is he representing here? A flopped set? A rivered set? 2 pair with a duece?

Maybe a busted heart draw and he thinks you're too weak to call him, eh?

Or does he think your hand is strong enough to call his slowplayed set? If so, why not play back at you on the flop/turn giving you poor odds to find a river fold?

FreakDaddy

01-03-2006, 04:19 AM

Without a read I check the turn here. It's not a very scary board. Little hand, little pot.

At these limits it's tough but it's 50/50. Either a busted draw or a set, but it's quite suspicious that he bets full pot here on the river. How strong can he think you are here? Either you are bluffing, have an over pair or AJ. At these limits probably a fold though.

Cosimo

01-03-2006, 01:34 PM

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when donks c/c, c/c, pot the river it tends to destroy 1 pair. this is a standard fold w/out a read...

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QFT.

I've seen one player (one) do this with draws, especially missed draws, but everyone else has TPTK crushed.