Official 5 Diamond Championship Thread

[Cornell Fiji]

Chip Count - 2006 WPT Five Diamond Championship
Place Name Chip Count
1 Haralabos Voulgaris 750,000
2 Joe Hachem 700,000
3 Steve Sung 690,000
4 Rolgues Rodriguez 600,000
4 Daniel Negreanu 600,000
6 Ed Jordan 560,000
7 Mike Matusow 540,000
8 Ian Johns 520,000
9 David Redlin 500,000
10 Keith Lehr 495,000
11 Kevin Hong 455,000
12 Cyndy Violette 450,000
13 Peter Rho 443,000
14 Scott Fischman 400,000
14 Eugene Ji 400,000
16 John Hoang 370,000
16 Clonie Gowen 370,000
<font color="red">18 Zee Justin Bonomo 360,000</font>
18 Chris Kimmel 360,000
20 Jim Routos 340,000
21 Michael The Grinder Mizrachi 320,000
21 Grant Lang 320,000
23 Lee Markholt 285,000
24 Chris McCormack 275,000
25 Steven Liu 270,000
26 Laura Fink 260,000
26 Ray Faltinsky 260,000
28 Scott Linden 255,000
29 Mads Anderson 250,000
30 Wayne Lewis 240,000
31 Marco Johnson 230,000
32 Michael Binger 225,000
32 Kristy Gazes 225,000
34 Cliff Josephy 220,000
35 Jim Hanna 215,000
36 Brent Sheirbon 210,000
36 Richard Harroch 210,000
38 Gary Kainer 200,000
39 Ali Nourbehesht 190,000
40 Jesse Jones 185,000
41 Frank Hernandez 180,000
42 Mats Rahmn 175,000
43 Scott Lundgerg 170,000
44 Jeffery Siler 160,000
45 Marco Palacios 150,000
45 Chau Giang 150,000
47 Fred Goldberg 145,000
48 Eric Deregt 140,000
49 David Levi 130,000
<font color="red"> 49 David Sklansky 130,000</font>
51 Evelyn Ng 125,000
51 Richard Wyrick 125,000
51 Tony Ma 125,000
54 Mohamad Kowssarie 115,000
55 Erik Cajelais 110,000
55 Chip Reese 110,000
57 Mack Lee 100,000
58 Allen Kessler 95,000
59 David Oppenheim 90,000
60 Nenad Medic 85,000
61 Jeff Shulman 82,000
62 Elia Ahmadian 80,000
63 Rhynie Campbell 70,000

[timex]

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Chip Count - 2006 WPT Five Diamond Championship
Place Name Chip Count
1 Haralabos Voulgaris 750,000
2 Joe Hachem 700,000
3 Steve Sung 690,000
4 Rolgues Rodriguez 600,000
4 Daniel Negreanu 600,000
6 Ed Jordan 560,000
7 Mike Matusow 540,000
8 Ian Johns 520,000
9 David Redlin 500,000
10 Keith Lehr 495,000
11 Kevin Hong 455,000
12 Cyndy Violette 450,000
13 Peter Rho 443,000
14 Scott Fischman 400,000
14 Eugene Ji 400,000
16 John Hoang 370,000
16 Clonie Gowen 370,000
<font color="red">18 Zee Justin Bonomo 360,000</font>
<font color="red">18 Zee Justin Bonomo 360,000[/b]</font>
<font color="red">18 Zee Justin Bonomo 360,000[/b]</font>
<font color="red">18 Zee Justin Bonomo 360,000[/b]</font>
<font color="red">18 Zee Justin Bonomo 360,000[/b]</font>
<font color="red">18 Zee Justin Bonomo 360,000[/b]</font>
18 Chris Kimmel 360,000
20 Jim Routos 340,000
21 Michael The Grinder Mizrachi 320,000
21 Grant Lang 320,000
23 Lee Markholt 285,000
24 Chris McCormack 275,000
25 Steven Liu 270,000
26 Laura Fink 260,000
26 Ray Faltinsky 260,000
28 Scott Linden 255,000
29 Mads Anderson 250,000
30 Wayne Lewis 240,000
31 Marco Johnson 230,000
32 Michael Binger 225,000
32 Kristy Gazes 225,000
34 Cliff Josephy 220,000
35 Jim Hanna 215,000
36 Brent Sheirbon 210,000
36 Richard Harroch 210,000
38 Gary Kainer 200,000
39 Ali Nourbehesht 190,000
40 Jesse Jones 185,000
41 Frank Hernandez 180,000
42 Mats Rahmn 175,000
43 Scott Lundgerg 170,000
44 Jeffery Siler 160,000
45 Marco Palacios 150,000
45 Chau Giang 150,000
47 Fred Goldberg 145,000
48 Eric Deregt 140,000
49 David Levi 130,000
<font color="red"> 49 David Sklansky 130,000</font>
51 Evelyn Ng 125,000
51 Richard Wyrick 125,000
51 Tony Ma 125,000
54 Mohamad Kowssarie 115,000
55 Erik Cajelais 110,000
55 Chip Reese 110,000
57 Mack Lee 100,000
58 Allen Kessler 95,000
59 David Oppenheim 90,000
60 Nenad Medic 85,000
61 Jeff Shulman 82,000
62 Elia Ahmadian 80,000
63 Rhynie Campbell 70,000

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FYP

[Cornell Fiji]

Timex,
I can't believe that after 100,000 jokes on the subject I still got a chuckle out of your post. NH.
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I wonder what the details of this hand were... I assume Sung raised and David pushed or vice versa but the 2p2 godfather has been eliminated

David Sklansky moved all in for less than 100k and Steve Sung called. The players showed:

Steve Sung 8c8h
David Sklansky AsKc

The board came 9c7c3d5h9d and there was no help for Sklanksy who was eliminated in 56th place with $25,370.

[TimTimSalabim]

This hand is pretty sparse with details, but it looks pretty bad:

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Mack Lee takes out Mike Matusow
No Limit Hold 'em Main Event
Dec 17, 2006 / 22:14:53 EDT
Mike Matusow raised preflop with two callers. Mack Lee moved all in from the big blind. Matusow called and the other players folded.

Mack Lee AA
Mike Matusow 1010

Lee flopped top set and rivered a full house on a board reading A62Q2. Matusow was eliminated in 48th place.


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Edit: Perhaps Matusow got crippled on an earlier hand and he was short stacked is the only thing I can figure.

[Cornell Fiji]

Lee only had 100k and the mouth had 540k the last time there were chipcounts so it does look like they were probably around 350k when this hand happened.

In a nutshell the hand does not look horrible though.

Blinds are 4,000/8,000/1,000.

Assume that mike made it 25k to go and was called by 2 players then there was 100k in the pot when it got to Lee.

With a 250k stack it makes perfect sense for Lee to be squeezing here with a huge range. Even if we give him the tight range of 99+, AQo+ Mike is only a 45/55 dog.

When it got to Mike he would have to call 325k in a 435k pot and he is priced in to call.

If Mike actually had a shorter stack then his call only gets easier and if we can expand Lee's range to 66+,AQ+ then Mike is actually a favorite



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If the bloggers got this hand correct though then it is really gross:

Chip Reese moved all in preflop in early position for 73k. Ray Faltinsky called.

Chip Reese JsJd
Ray Faltinksky 6c5c

The board fell 9s3s2sAh6s giving Reese a flush and doubling him up.

The only logical assumption on this one is that Faltinsky made it 30k preflop and felt pot committed to Chip's push. If he called an open push from Reese like the post suggests than thats just nasty

[Whitewash]

Bonomo is chipleader with 34 people left. Sick.

[Cornell Fiji]

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Bonomo is chipleader with 34 people left. Sick.

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Wow, chip leader is easy when people just give you their chips (and your hand holds up)

On a flop of KsQd5s Haralabos Voulgaris checked and Zee Justin Bonomo bet 70k. Voulgaris raised to 140k and Bonomo pushed in for an additional 242k. Voulgaris called and the players showed:

Zee Justin Bonomo Kc10c
Haralabos Voulgaris QcJc

The turn and river came 7h4c and Bonomo took the pot with top pair to double his stack to about 980k.

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Place Name Chip Count
1 Lee Markholt 1,481,000
2 Mads Anderson 1,033,000
3 Zee Justin Bonomo 987,000
4 Joe Hachem 915,000
5 Michael Binger 827,000
6 Scott Linden 819,000
7 Haralabos Voulgaris 798,000
8 Scott Fischman 751,000
9 Cliff Josephy 716,000
10 Ed Jordan 695,000
11 Steve Sung 668,000
12 Ray Faltinsky 611,000
13 Keith Lehr 604,000
14 Peter Rho 555,000
15 Mack Lee 551,000
16 Rolgues Rodriguez 541,000
17 Frank Hernandez 492,000
18 John Hoang 460,000
19 Cyndy Violette 457,000
20 Mats Rahmn 381,000
21 Jim Routos 367,000
22 Marco Johnson 310,000
23 Jesse Jones 303,000
24 Brent Sheirbon 298,000
25 Chip Reese 277,000
26 David Redlin 270,000
27 Fred Goldberg 263,000
28 Laura Fink 239,000
29 Michael The Grinder Mizrachi 233,000
30 Grant Lang 175,000
31 Daniel Negreanu 174,000
32 David Oppenheim 136,000
33 Jim Hanna 125,000

[gdsdiscgolfer]

Cliff Josephy is JohnnyBax

[N 82 50 24]

i'd like to see justin v bax hu

[JokerArmy]

Pesonally I'd like to see a TV FT of:

Zee Justin
Hachem
Voulgaris
Cliff "Johnny Bax" Josephy
Reese
Grinder

Even though the last 2 are a bit remote I believe that can be your most watchable FT if all the stars are in place.

- JA

[N 82 50 24]

this is a little surreal because i was at the last 5 diamonds w/ ozzy and justin to see gigabet play the FT (we flew out the day of the FT) - blog post here link (http://www.natarem.com/index.php?/archives/78-Gigabet,-sheets,-Ozzy-and-N-82-on-the-WPT.html). i remember justin talking about how excited he was to play in the event next year. he also was dreading taking a huge beat like patrik with with AK AIPF HU. i'm just excited to see what happens next...

[Exitonly]

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i'd like to see justin v bax hu

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[timex]

I'd like to see justin win

[flavio321]

i guess this justin kid is the real deal.

[NicksDad1970]

I can't access Cardplayer. Could someone paste the chip counts please?

[MafiaPrince]

1Lee Markholt 1,481,000
2Mads Andersen 1,033,000
3Justin Bonomo 987,000
4Joseph Hachem 915,000
5Michael Binger 827,000
6Michael Linden 819,000
7Haralabos Voulgaris 798,000
8Scott Fischman 751,000
9Cliff Josephy 716,000
10Edward Jordan 695,000
11Steve Sung 668,000
12Ray Faltinsky 611,000
13Keith Lehr 604,000
14Peter Rho 555,000
15Mack Lee 551,000
16Rolgues Rodriguez 541,000
17Francisco Hernandez492,000
18John Hoang 460,000
19Cyndy Violette 457,000
20Mats Rahmn 381,000
21James Routos 367,000
22Marco Johnson 310,000
23Jesse Jones 303,000
24Brent Sheirban 298,000
25David 'Chip' Reese 277,000
26David Redlin 270,000
27Fred Goldberg 263,000
28Laura Fink 239,000
29Michael Mizrachi 233,000
30Grant Lang 175,000
31Daniel Negreanu 174,000
32David Oppenheim 136,000
33Jim Hanna 125,000

[MafiaPrince]

Wasnt Hachem part of that WPT lawsuit? Was it dropped or was an agreement made or something?

[pindawg]

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i guess this justin kid is the real deal.

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OFN

[sonofstev]

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Wasnt Hachem part of that WPT lawsuit? Was it dropped or was an agreement made or something?

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That's the question of the tournament.

[reo]

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Michael Mizrachi Eliminated 29th ($50,745)
Card Player Player of the Year Michael Mizrachi has just been eliminated from the tournament by Jim Hanna.

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Cardplayer at least needs to let us know how he was eliminated . . .

. . . he's the current player of the year.

[1p0kerboy]

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Wasnt Hachem part of that WPT lawsuit? Was it dropped or was an agreement made or something?

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The lawsuit was not dropped but Hachem recently withdrew his name from it and is done with it.

[Wingnut]

From PokerPages:

"Monday, 18th of December 2006 01:52 PM

2006 Player of the Year Michael "The Grinder" Mizrachi was just eliminated. Hanna opens for 45k in late position and Mizrachi moves in from the small blind for about 90k. Hanna calls with A K . Mizrachi shows A Q . The board comes T 3 6 4 8 and Michael Mizrachi is our 29th place finisher, earning $50,745. "

[professormike]

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i'd like to see justin v bax hu

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I'd like to see justin win

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[Kevmath]

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Michael Mizrachi Eliminated 29th ($50,745)
Card Player Player of the Year Michael Mizrachi has just been eliminated from the tournament by Jim Hanna.

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Cardplayer at least needs to let us know how he was eliminated . . .

. . . he's the current player of the year.

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From Jon Eaton at pokerpages.com:

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2006 Player of the Year Michael "The Grinder" Mizrachi was just eliminated. Hanna opens for 45k in late position and Mizrachi moves in from the small blind for about 90k. Hanna calls with A K . Mizrachi shows A Q . The board comes T 3 6 4 8 and Michael Mizrachi is our 29th place finisher, earning $50,745.

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[Cornell Fiji]

what is Hachem thinking with this limp-call UTG with effective stacks so small after the raise?

Rodriguez (673,000) BB
Hachem (1,900,000) UTG
Rahm (880,000) UTG+1


Blinds are 10k/20k with a 3k ante.

Hachem has 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif

Hachem limps UTG (20k,) Rahm limps (20k,) all fold to Rodriguez in the BB who raises to 120k. Hachem calls, Rahm calls.

Flop (394k): 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Rodriguez goes all in for 500k, Hachem raises all in, Rahm folds.

Roriguez has A/images/graemlins/heart.gifA/images/graemlins/diamond.gif and he does not boat up.

Hachem up to 2.8 mil


Rigged!

[A_C_Slater]

How deep should Rodriguez be to make the call? I'm guessing 900k. Maybe he knew the other guy would overcall thus making it about right.

[NicksDad1970]

Who is still in it?

[Cornell Fiji]

1 Joseph Hachem 2,400,000
2 Justin Bonomo 1,350,000
3 Jim Hanna 1,160,000
4 Peter Rho 975,000
5 Mats Rahmn 960,000
6 Haralabos Voulgaris 950,000
6 Mads Andersen 950,000
8 Mack Lee 910,000
9 Scott Fischman 900,000
10 Cyndy Violette 860,000
11 Cliff Josephy 765,000
12 Steve Sung 755,000
13 Fred Goldberg 750,000
14 Edward Jordan 675,000
15 Daniel Negreanu 610,000
16 Brent Sheirban 590,000
17 Lee Markholt 475,000
18 David Redlin 450,000
19 Michael Binger 325,000
20 Jesse Jones 260,000

[Aceshigh7]

GO HACHEM.

[Cornell Fiji]

gg bax

Cliff Josephy Eliminated 20th ($67,655)
Cliff Josephy is all in preflop with 9diamond8diamond against the JheartJspade of Fred Goldberg. The board comes 5diamond4spade2heart4heartQspade and Goldberg wins the pot to eliminate Josephy from the tournament.

[shakyamuni]

Updated Chip Count

1. Joe Hachem 2,600,000
2 Haralabos Voulgaris 1,350,000
3 Zee Justin Bonomo 1,300,000
4 Peter Rho 1,140,000
5 Daniel Negreanu 1,100,000
6 Cyndi Violette 1,000,000
6 Mack Lee 1,000,000
8 Mats Anderson 855,000
9 Fred Goldberg 800,000
10 Mats Rahmn 715,000
11 Scott Fischman 690,000
12 David Redlin 650,000
13 Jim Hanna 635,000
14 Brent Sheirborn 620,000
15 Steve Sung 580,000
16 Lee Markholt 430,000
17 Ed Jordan 400,000
18 Jesse Jones 325,000
19 Michael Binger 270,000

[JP OSU]

I would absolutely love to see a FT w/ Hachem, DN, and ZJ...

[sonofstev]

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Wasnt Hachem part of that WPT lawsuit? Was it dropped or was an agreement made or something?

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The lawsuit was not dropped but Hachem recently withdrew his name from it and is done with it.

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Source?

[HossTheBoss]

wow, what a sick top 6 right now, this would be a great tv table
Hachem, Fischman, Bonomo, Harabolous, Negreanu, Goldberg..... just sick

[cript2000]

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wow, what a sick top 6 right now, this would be a great tv table
Hachem, Fischman, Bonomo, Harabolous, Negreanu, Goldberg..... just sick

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Especially if goldberg speared Zeejustin and all 4 clones that took his place.

[ligastar]

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wow, what a sick top 6 right now, this would be a great tv table
Hachem, Fischman, Bonomo, Harabolous, Negreanu, Goldberg..... just sick

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Except for the WPT FT structure which takes the poker out of the action.

[shakyamuni]

New Count

1 Joe Hachem 2,550,000
2 Daniel Negreanu 1,850,000
3 Scott Fischman 1,700,000
4 David Redlin 1,350,000
5 Jim Hanna 1,300,000
5 Jesse Jones 1,300,000
7 Zee Justin Bonomo 1,175,000
8 Mads Anderson 1,125,000
9 Haralabos Voulgaris 1,060,000
10 Mack Lee 780,000
11 Fred Goldberg 650,000
12 Michael Binger 620,000
13 Cyndi Violette 550,000
14 Brent Sheirborn 515,000
15 Ed Jordan 470,000
16 Steve Sung 110,000

[iamastud]

go daniel.

[shakyamuni]

Updated

1. Daniel Negreanu 3,700,000
2 Joe Hachem 3,500,000
3 Haralabos Voulgaris 1,300,000
3 Zee Justin Bonomo 1,300,000
5 David Redlin 1,175,000
6 Jim Hanna 1,160,000
7 Steve Sung 1,100,000
8 Ed Jordan 900,000
8 Fred Goldberg 900,000
10 Scott Fischman 850,000
11 Mack Lee 775,000
12 Mads Anderson 365,000

[kevJ]

talk about a better showing then Zeejus Steve Sung took 3rd in the 3000 event and final tabled the main.

[gdsdiscgolfer]

Daniel Negreanu
Chip Count: 3,785,000

Joseph Hachem
Chip Count: 3,440,000

Haralabos Voulgaris
Chip Count: 2,025,000
David Redlin
Chip Count: 1,860,000

Jim Hanna
Chip Count: 1,535,000

Justin Bonomo
Chip Count: 1,325,000

Edward Jordan
Chip Count: 1,065,000

Mack Lee
Chip Count: 800,000

Steve Sung
Chip Count: 685,000

Mads Anderson
Chip Count: 300,000




Please oh please let this current top 6 be the final 6.

[billyjex]

Mads Anderson Takes a Nice Pot
Mads Anderson raises to $175,000 preflop. Joe Hachem reraises to $475,000 total. Anderson moves all in for an additional $975,000 chips. After several minutes, Hachem mucks QQ face up and Anderson rakes the pot.

Joe's basically getting break even odds against AA/KK/AK, and if this dude is capable of pushing JJ here it's a big time -EV mistake.

Yeah, yeah, he's at the table and may have "tells" but what a nit.

[timex]

No, he is getting much better odds than even, he is putting in 975k to win a pot with like 2.1 mill, so he only needs to win like 32% or something like that.
QQ v AA, AK,AKs,KK is like 39%, if the range is AA,KK,AKs, QQ its a marginal fold, but I'm still not a big fan.

Thorladen, who is there says that Mads sucks, so he may just be bad enough that its a good fold.

[Cornell Fiji]

final table set.

hell of a run Zee.


Tue Dec 19 03:10:00 PST 2006
Justin Bonomo Eliminated 7th ($152,230)
Mads Anderson raises to $240,000 preflop and Justin Bonomo moves all in. Anderson immediately calls and shows 7d7h. Bonomo turns over AcQc. The board comes Jh6s4s2hJs and Anderson wins the pot and eliminates Bonomo in 7th place.

1 Daniel Negreanu 4,670,000
2 Mads Andersen 4,310,000
3 Joseph Hachem 2,345,000
4 Edward Jordan 2,320,000
5 David Redlin 2,040,000
6 Jim Hanna 1,820,000

[samsdmf]

Congrats to ZeeJustin on his cash but how hot does Negraneu run, sure he was on about 200k when I went out last night and I log on this morning, FT chip leader

[DRRPoker]

Negreanu really is in control. This is an amazing hand of pot control and position:

Steve Sung raised to 135k from middle position, Daniel Negreanu called from late position, and the flop came 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif. Both players checked and the turn came 6/images/graemlins/club.gif. Both players checked again and the river came K/images/graemlins/spade.gif. Sung checked to Negreanu who bet 300k and Sung finally called. Negreanu showed pocket A/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif to take down the pot. Sung mucked his hand.

[Aceshigh7]

Glad that cheater boy didn't make the tv table at least.

[moving shapes]

nice to see negreanu doing well. don't particularly like hachem. he looks too worried all the time

[JoseGonzlez]

Hanchem is the one guy it seems who makes these huge laydowns and yet still wins.

[MafiaPrince]

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Wasnt Hachem part of that WPT lawsuit? Was it dropped or was an agreement made or something?

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The lawsuit was not dropped but Hachem recently withdrew his name from it and is done with it.

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Source?

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He had to have signed the agreement or he could not have played in the event.

[NicksDad1970]

DN must have gone on a sick run. I read about the trip 5 hand. Were there some other good ones or a bunch of small ones?

[moving shapes]

Place Name Chip Count
1 Daniel Negreanu 9,000,000
2 Joe Hachem 3,000,000
3 Mads Anderson 2,500,000
4 David Redlin 1,600,000
5 Jim Hanna 1,450,000

[daedalus]

that was a sick read from negreanu to call that Ed Jordan all in with only Ace high!! He's a freak!.

[NicksDad1970]

That was an incredible call to that guys all in wasn't it?

[daedalus]

13. Ed Jordan raises to $200,000 and Mads Anderson reraises to $625,000 from the cutoff. Daniel Negreanu calls from the button and Jordan calls as well. The flop comes QQ10 and it is checked around. The turn is the 4 and Jordan moves all in for $1,045,000. Anderson folds and Negreanu thinks for a few minutes before making the call. Jordan turns over 87 and Negreanu turns over AK. The river comes the 6 and Ed Jordan has been eliminated from the tournament in 6th place.

Tue Dec 19 17:47:00 PST 2006
Hachem Takes A Vote
Hachem just took a table vote, and after the last all-in call by Negreanu against Jordan it was unanimous, “Daniel Negreanu is the sickest poker player on the planet,” announced Hachem over the mic.

[haz31]

David Redlin raises from under the gun to $180,000 and Joe Hachem, in the big blind, raises to $500,000. Redlin moves all in for $725,000 and Hachem immediately calls. Redlin turns over AQ but Hachem has QQ. However,the flop and turn comes 744A and Redlin pairs his ace, leaving Hachem drawing to a one outer. The dealer flips over the river card to reveal the Q!!! Hachem catches the only queen left in the deck to win the pot and eliminate Redlin in 5th place.

Nothing like a 3outer suckout on the turn, followed by a 1 outer resuck on the river. ESPN will be having wet dreams over this hand on TV.

[skirk]

DN did have (assuming no Q) overcards, flush and straight outs with 1 to come when he called even if his A hi was not the best hand. He also had the guy outchipped 6-1.

[UMTerp]

I think the suits were important for Negreanu's call too:

13. Ed Jordan raises to $200,000 and Mads Anderson reraises to $625,000 from the cutoff. Daniel Negreanu calls from the button and Jordan calls as well. The flop comes Q/images/graemlins/heart.gifQ/images/graemlins/club.gif10/images/graemlins/heart.gif and it is checked around. The turn is the 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif and Jordan moves all in for $1,045,000. Anderson folds and Negreanu thinks for a few minutes before making the call. Jordan turns over 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif7/images/graemlins/spade.gif and Negreanu turns over A/images/graemlins/club.gifK/images/graemlins/heart.gif. The river comes the 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif and Ed Jordan has been eliminated from the tournament in 6th place.

He obviously thought there was a fair chance his ace-high was good, since he didn't have odds for his draws, and it was a sick call, but I'm sure he thought there was a great chance he had 12 or more outs even if he was behind.

[daedalus]

this is going to be an unbelievable TV broadcast. Not to mention it looks like a Hachem/Negreanu heads up ending. WOW. I wish I was there.

[daedalus]

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I think the suits were important for Negreanu's call too:

13. Ed Jordan raises to $200,000 and Mads Anderson reraises to $625,000 from the cutoff. Daniel Negreanu calls from the button and Jordan calls as well. The flop comes Q/images/graemlins/heart.gifQ/images/graemlins/club.gif10/images/graemlins/heart.gif and it is checked around. The turn is the 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif and Jordan moves all in for $1,045,000. Anderson folds and Negreanu thinks for a few minutes before making the call. Jordan turns over 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif7/images/graemlins/spade.gif and Negreanu turns over A/images/graemlins/club.gifK/images/graemlins/heart.gif. The river comes the 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif and Ed Jordan has been eliminated from the tournament in 6th place.

He obviously thought there was a fair chance his ace-high was good, since he didn't have odds for his draws, and it was a sick call, but I'm sure he thought there was a great chance he had 12 or more outs even if he was behind.

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I disagree...I think he knew he was ahead. You should listen to him the last couple nights on The Circuit. He's been in a zone making sick reads on people with nothing. I'm guessing that's what he did here. The extra outs were gravy but I don't think they drove the call.

[daedalus]

I heard Zee Justin had 2 entries into the 5 diamond....can anyone confirm?

[buckslayer80]

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I heard Zee Justin had 2 entries into the 5 diamond....can anyone confirm?

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Man you people are getting really old.

[moving shapes]

1 Daniel Negreanu 8,700,000
2 Joe Hachem 5,850,000
3 Jim Hanna 2,830,000

yeah can't wait to watch this. how long do they generally take to come on tv? - i don't live in the u.s.

[adman2006]

Come on Hachem... 3 final tables and 3 bad beats each time in the last 4 months or so. will he get another bad beat today?

[UMTerp]

FWIW, Hachem could become the first player ever to win two tournaments with a $2 Million+ first prize.

And assuming either Hachem or Negreanu wins, the winner will be 2nd on the all-time money list, and the runner-up 3rd. The winner will also become the second player ever to crack the $10 Million mark in lifetime tournament earnings (using Hendon Mob's numbers).

[adman2006]

Although how can you not root for negreanu... what a player!

[daedalus]

Hachem over $10M? Wow what a year and 3 months.

Where's Jamie Gold btw? Loser.

[adman2006]

I'd have thought the prize money would have been higher than that but thinking about it makes sense. I don't think we have seen the best of hachem just yet, imagine how much he has learnt in the past year.

[adman2006]

shouldn't have hachem pushed his two pair here?

Tue Dec 19 18:27:00 PST 2006
Hand 25
25. Joe Hachem raises to $150,000 and Mads Andersen reraises to $415,000. Hachem makes the call and the flop comes J102. Hachem checks and Andersen bets $450,000. Hachem calls and the turn is the 5. Hachem checks again and Andersen checks. The river is the Q and Andersen bets $800,000. Hachem immediately calls and shows Q-J for two pair. Andersen folds and Hachem wins the pot.

[TalkingDonkey]

[ QUOTE ]
shouldn't have hachem pushed his two pair here?

Tue Dec 19 18:27:00 PST 2006
Hand 25
25. Joe Hachem raises to $150,000 and Mads Andersen reraises to $415,000. Hachem makes the call and the flop comes J102. Hachem checks and Andersen bets $450,000. Hachem calls and the turn is the 5. Hachem checks again and Andersen checks. The river is the Q and Andersen bets $800,000. Hachem immediately calls and shows Q-J for two pair. Andersen folds and Hachem wins the pot.

[/ QUOTE ]

No...given the way the hand played, what does Andersen call a push with that doesn't beat QJ?

[recipro]

[ QUOTE ]
shouldn't have hachem pushed his two pair here?

Tue Dec 19 18:27:00 PST 2006
Hand 25
25. Joe Hachem raises to $150,000 and Mads Andersen reraises to $415,000. Hachem makes the call and the flop comes J102. Hachem checks and Andersen bets $450,000. Hachem calls and the turn is the 5. Hachem checks again and Andersen checks. The river is the Q and Andersen bets $800,000. Hachem immediately calls and shows Q-J for two pair. Andersen folds and Hachem wins the pot.

[/ QUOTE ]

Uhh, why? Hands the lose to him fold, hands that beat him call.

[True North]

Geez, Daniel's leaked away most of his chips pretty quickly:

[ QUOTE ]
The updated chip counts with 3 players remaining are:

Jim Hanna $7,780,000

Joe Hachem $7,625,000

Daniel Negreanu $2,340,000

[/ QUOTE ]

[daedalus]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
shouldn't have hachem pushed his two pair here?

Tue Dec 19 18:27:00 PST 2006
Hand 25
25. Joe Hachem raises to $150,000 and Mads Andersen reraises to $415,000. Hachem makes the call and the flop comes J102. Hachem checks and Andersen bets $450,000. Hachem calls and the turn is the 5. Hachem checks again and Andersen checks. The river is the Q and Andersen bets $800,000. Hachem immediately calls and shows Q-J for two pair. Andersen folds and Hachem wins the pot.

[/ QUOTE ]

No...given the way the hand played, what does Andersen call a push with that doesn't beat QJ?

[/ QUOTE ]

respectfully disagree. the guy's pot committed I think. If he has even a pair he has to call an all in. This hand struck me the same way. I know Hachem hates to play big pots...especially against inferior players. I'm guessing he was concerned about a trapping set and played it safe but I think he missed out on $700K.

[chicken10der]

Hachem busts Negreanu. Hachem raises on button with 44, Negreanu moves in with KT from SB, Hanna supposedly folds TT in BB, Hachem eventually calls. Board bricks for Negreanu.

Hanna-Hachem Heads-Up

9.5m-8m

80k/160k/15k blinds-antes

With his $592k cash, Negreanu becomes the leading WPT money winner of all time, overtaking Tuan Le.

[haz31]

Ninja edit, above poster beat me to it

GOGO Hachem!!!

[adman2006]

7-3 offsuit, 7-3 offsuit!

[adanthar]

[ QUOTE ]
Hachem busts Negreanu. Hachem raises on button with 44, Negreanu moves in with KT from SB, Hanna supposedly folds TT in BB

[/ QUOTE ]

unless stack sizes are really weird, this fold is soooooo bad

[haz31]

Hachem 13.5 Million, Hanna 4 Milion

[chicken10der]

Hachem now has over a 3:1 chip lead after 6 hands of heads up play.

13.4m - 4m

Hachem raises to $450,000 and Hanna raises an additional $900,000. Hachem thinks for a few moments before making the call. The flop comes 965 and Hanna bets $3,000,000. Hachem moves all in and Hanna thinks for several quiet minutes before folding his hand. Hachem rakes a huge pot.

[daedalus]

Whadda we think? Hachem KK vs. JJ?

77. Hachem raises to $450,000 and Hanna raises an additional $900,000. Hachem thinks for a few moments before making the call. The flop comes 965 and Hanna bets $3,000,000. Hachem moves all in and Hanna thinks for several quiet minutes before folding his hand. Hachem rakes a huge pot.

[moving shapes]

Joe Hachem has just won the 2006 WPT Bellagio Five Diamond Championship. For first place he takes home a gold and diamond Championship Bracelet, a $25,500 seat to the WPT Invitational, and a cash prize of $2,182,075.

[daedalus]

paaass me the sugah!

[UMTerp]

[ QUOTE ]
Whadda we think? Hachem KK vs. JJ?

[/ QUOTE ]

I can't imagine Hanna folds an overpair only 50 BBs deep heads up with the pot laying him 3:1.

Hachem could easily play a hand like 77 or 88 that way. I think it's more likely he was trying to figure out if he had odds to call with overs. Though the continuation bet seems rather large if he only had overs. Who knows.

[daedalus]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Whadda we think? Hachem KK vs. JJ?

[/ QUOTE ]

I can't imagine Hanna folds an overpair only 50 BBs deep heads up with the pot laying him 3:1.

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah but I can't imagine he bluffed at the pot with a bet of $3M.

[recipro]

So, is Hachem &gt; Raymer now, in the ranking of recent WSOP winners?

[Whitewash]

[ QUOTE ]
Whadda we think? Hachem KK vs. JJ?

77. Hachem raises to $450,000 and Hanna raises an additional $900,000. Hachem thinks for a few moments before making the call. The flop comes 965 and Hanna bets $3,000,000. Hachem moves all in and Hanna thinks for several quiet minutes before folding his hand. Hachem rakes a huge pot.

[/ QUOTE ]

Underpair might make sense with that line.

BTW, I think it's much more likely Hachem had QQ-AA than 77 or 88. He is more likely to push with the middle pair since he's gonna have no clue where he's at with most flops, and a big pair makes sense with cold calling the reraise in order to get the guy for all his chips on the flop.

[daedalus]

[ QUOTE ]
So, is Hachem &gt; Raymer now, in the ranking of recent WSOP winners?

[/ QUOTE ]

Easily. He's rocked since he set foot in the U.S.

[timex]

[ QUOTE ]
So, is Hachem &gt; Raymer now, in the ranking of recent WSOP winners?

[/ QUOTE ]

Results &gt;Decisions too

[chicken10der]

I am just in awe of this guy's results since winning the 7.5. WSOP Circuit final table, 2 WSOP final tables, 238th in the 8700-player main event, WPT $15k title...wow.

[adman2006]

And it's only his first year on the circuit, more to come and I can't wait to see it unfold!

[kerr]

still disappointing how he lost HU in the SH this year. and of all "people" to lose to.

Hachem, what a legend.

[HossTheBoss]

CONGRATS TO HACHEM, hes hands down the best tournament player in the world now, say what you want, but in less than 2 years the guy won the Main Event, got 230/8800, made numerous WSOP final tables, took 2nd in a bracelet event because of a 3 outer, and now he wins the 2nd biggest WPT of the year, and the 3rd biggest tournament of the year.

[gobboboy]

[ QUOTE ]
CONGRATS TO HACHEM, hes hands down the best tournament player in the world now, say what you want, but in less than 2 years the guy won the Main Event, got 230/8800, made numerous WSOP final tables, took 2nd in a bracelet event because of a 3 outer, and now he wins the 2nd biggest WPT of the year, and the 3rd biggest tournament of the year.

[/ QUOTE ]

Playing against giant idiots. There was at least one player better than him at the final table of this tournament.

[mlagoo]

pretty sick that he won this


feel bad for zj for not making this FT as its going to be a pretty famous one, i think, given that it has hachem and negreanu.

[timex]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
CONGRATS TO HACHEM, hes hands down the best tournament player in the world now, say what you want, but in less than 2 years the guy won the Main Event, got 230/8800, made numerous WSOP final tables, took 2nd in a bracelet event because of a 3 outer, and now he wins the 2nd biggest WPT of the year, and the 3rd biggest tournament of the year.

[/ QUOTE ]

Playing against giant idiots. There were at least six players better than him at the final table of this tournament.

[/ QUOTE ]

[Whitewash]

Six players better than him? Really? Man, 2+2ers sure like to exaggerate for effect.

[BeL0wMe]

Why all the hate jesus, his results speak for themselves. Just because he's slightly nittier than you guys like to see, doesn't mean he's not a damnnn fine player. Other than Cunningham, Ivey, and possibly Grinder you gotta think Hachem is the best tournament player going right now.

[chicken10der]

[ QUOTE ]

Playing against giant idiots.

[/ QUOTE ]

WELCOME TO TOURNAMENT POKER! Being great at playing against giant idiots is a winning formula.

[gobboboy]

[ QUOTE ]
Why all the hate jesus, his results speak for themselves. Just because he's slightly nittier than you guys like to see, doesn't mean he's not a damnnn fine player. Other than Cunningham, Ivey, and possibly Grinder you gotta think Hachem is the best tournament player going right now.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's just ridiculous to say. There are tons more players better than him and they're all under 25. He's good at demolishing donkeys, but congratulations, so are most good players. ZeeJustin was easily the best player at the final table and Negreanu is probably better than Hachem. Results != best player evar.

[chicken10der]

If you're not going by results, then what ARE you going by? I'm not saying results is the ultimate way to go, but you are being completely arbitrary saying that ZJ &gt; Hachem. Provide some kind of argument.

[Aceshigh7]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Why all the hate jesus, his results speak for themselves. Just because he's slightly nittier than you guys like to see, doesn't mean he's not a damnnn fine player. Other than Cunningham, Ivey, and possibly Grinder you gotta think Hachem is the best tournament player going right now.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's just ridiculous to say. There are tons more players better than him and they're all under 25. He's good at demolishing donkeys, but congratulations, so are most good players. ZeeJustin was easily the best player at the final table and Negreanu is probably better than Hachem. Results != best player evar.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow. You're clueless.

[gobboboy]

It's clear that neither of you understand mtt variance at all. The best player in the world may never win a tournament.

[ace_in_the_hole]

[ QUOTE ]
I heard Zee Justin had 2 entries into the 5 diamond....can anyone confirm?

[/ QUOTE ]

Jealous Ones Envy

[Yo Adrians!]

[ QUOTE ]
The best player in the world may never win a tournament.

[/ QUOTE ]

This, of course, is true. But I think all we're looking for is some hard proof to support your claim that ZJ was, without a doubt, the best player at the 5D final table, as you say he was.

No offense or anything, but you making that statement without evidence/facts/something concrete to show us is as silly as those claiming Hachem is the best player 'evar'.

So please, enlighten us with this evidence. I really think that's all we're looking for.

[Whitewash]

And please make us believe you don't just have an overall bias against live players vs online, something that was apparent long before this thread.

[gobboboy]

I don't think that it's 'without a doubt.' I could be wrong. But I think that ZJ has demonstrated himself to be a much better player than Hachem in the past few years.

And a bias against live players? Most live players suck. If that's bias, well, there you go.

[timex]

[ QUOTE ]
Six players better than him? Really? Man, 2+2ers sure like to exaggerate for effect.

[/ QUOTE ]

People suck at appreciating ZeeJustin jokes.

[UMTerp]

Gobbo, I understand your general point, but don't you think you could've picked a better target than Hachem to compare someone's play to for the "last couple years"? His results have been absolutely phenomenal. Unprecedented really. And again, I know results shouldn't be the measuring stick in theory, but when 99%+ of us on the board aren't familiar enough with the intricacies of either ZJ's or Hachem's play to make a judgment like that, results are really all we have to go on.

[Joe_d72]

[ QUOTE ]


That's just ridiculous to say. There are tons more players better than him and they're all under 25. He's good at demolishing donkeys, but congratulations, so are most good players. ZeeJustin was easily the best player at the final table and Negreanu is probably better than Hachem . Results != best player evar.

[/ QUOTE ]

How anyone can say that Daniel is not the best player at that final table is crazy. He has been winning tournaments since zee was 11 years old. I dont doubt that Justin at 21 is better then Daniel when he was 21, but today when talking about NL tournaments I cant see how somone can say Daniel is not the best or one of the best.

[timex]

He may be one of the best, but Zee is better.