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bicyclekick
12-13-2006, 06:10 PM
Villain stats lead me to believe the villain is a decent player.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($141.70)
SB ($91.80)
BB ($86.20)
UTG ($24)
MP ($23.80)
CO ($45.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($15.50) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, UTG folds, I should be thinking and doing what?
4_2_it
12-13-2006, 06:14 PM
Villain is on the bad side of decent if he has a habit of donk leading flops.

Make it $20 and see how the guy with two /images/graemlins/club.gif in his hand responds.
CappyAA
12-13-2006, 06:41 PM
Yep, you are beat here practically never. $15-$20 sounds about right to me.

FYI - I would be about 90% certain his range is 2 clubs, J9, or Tx.
Black Wings
12-13-2006, 06:44 PM
Could you post stats, looking at your 99 hand on a aa9 board without a read is pretty hard to decide, this is on that level.
wpr101
12-13-2006, 06:47 PM
I like a raise here. If he calls I slow way down on a club or put a lot of sets in his range.
n1nj4.br
12-13-2006, 06:52 PM
18$
ImsaKidd
12-13-2006, 07:33 PM
Raise to 20 ALWAYS.
yad
12-13-2006, 07:34 PM
raise. if he 3bets you you are almost certainly beat. if he flat calls (or folds obv) you are definitely ahead. he probably has a club draw, straight draw, or weakish TP/middle pair type hand.
wdead
12-13-2006, 07:45 PM
raise pot and never fold. villain bet 3 into 15 dollar pot he is a bad player get the money in
Duck Rabbit
12-13-2006, 07:48 PM
Raise it up to 18ish. I think your assessment of players skill level is a bit off, unless he knows you are aggro and will auto raise a mini donk bet with nothing.
eviljeff
12-13-2006, 07:50 PM
his flop donk pretty much rebuts any presumption of good play based on stats. he could be outthinking you and going for b/3b w/a monster, but I think we can safely fold to a 3bet so this is a must raise.
Stealthy
12-13-2006, 08:03 PM
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raise. if he 3bets you you are almost certainly up against a draw.

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You are ahead here almost always and a weak lead like this whilst sometimes a draw is often a very weak made hand. You dont need a hand to raise this bet to around $20 but the fact that you have one is a bonus.
mason55
12-13-2006, 09:04 PM
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raise. if he 3bets you you are almost certainly up against a draw.

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You are ahead here almost always and a weak lead like this whilst sometimes a draw is often a very weak made hand. You dont need a hand to raise this bet to around $20 but the fact that you have one is a bonus.

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Right you should be leading these donks with ATC