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Robbie01
12-10-2006, 02:12 PM
I played this badly whats my best line? i had him on AK do i bet more?

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Button ($36.50)
SB ($35.65)
Hero ($53.80)
UTG ($47.75)
UTG+1 ($31.05)
MP1 ($38.40)
MP2 ($52.10)
CO ($82.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $2, MP2 calls $2.

Flop: ($7.75) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls $2.

Turn: ($11.75) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, CO calls $4.

River: ($19.75) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, CO calls $10.

Final Pot: $39.75

Abramovic
12-10-2006, 02:23 PM
Preflop you really should raise this to about 8. You get an idea of where you are then.

That flop bet is absolutely disgusting. Youve picked up a gutshot, but really the flop is bad for us. I cannot see the point in that donk bet.

The turn bet is equally cringeworthy, and the river bet is spew.

You need to COMPLETELY remodel the way you play AK. Much more aggressive preflop, check the flop or put in a solid raise (0.75 of pot roughly), and then re-evaluate.

Imrahil
12-10-2006, 02:29 PM
Check fold the flop. I don't mind smoothcalling PF as you will be OOP. Some people will advocate raising which is fine also. I think this is villain dependant.

Chomp
12-10-2006, 03:28 PM
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Preflop you really should raise this to about 8. You get an idea of where you are then.

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I agree with a rr pf, but not in order to "find out where you are at". You are raising for value agsint other non-pair hands and in the hope you might fold out better hands (ie pp's).

I however agree with the rest of your post. OP's post-flop bets are unsure, confused and lacking in conviction. Why are you betting OP? From the sizes of your bets, it seems to me you don't really know.

Your options are:

1. Bet flop properly to fold out 22-99 and also as a standard c-bet. I guess this is somewhat read-dependent.

2. Alternatively, check....although, if you'd rr pf, I'd be less likely to simply check and more likely to c-bet.

Sweir
12-10-2006, 03:40 PM
I would re-raise PF, that way if you want to c-bet you are given more credit. Your flop bet was too small to push people out, personally i would have c/f that flop with 2 people still to act. I also dont like betting the turn and river like you did.

SavageMiser
12-10-2006, 06:11 PM
Flop and turn bets are weak. If you're willing to bet $6 on air, do it on the flop rather than splitting it over two streets.

I'm not sure how you put villain on AK (and on what street). There are lots of hands he could play this way (QTs comes to mind), so you might want to put him on a range of hands instead.

kabouter
12-10-2006, 06:17 PM
Preflop: seems ok, unless the villain has a very high PFR, calling here seems ok.

Flop: You are now in a 3way pot, oop and with a gutshot and 2 overcards, if you are going to bet here, make sure it is at least $5.

I don't like the turn and river, you are bluffing, but you are not convincing at all.

ajmargarine
12-10-2006, 06:19 PM
All postflop streets are spew.

FoolishStone
12-10-2006, 06:25 PM
With no reads calling PF is alright I wouldnt make it a habit even in the SB OOP. I prefer to check this flop and see what villain does you have two overs and a gutshot. The overs hitting probably will give him a better hand so i probably check fold here.

Shaddux
12-10-2006, 07:34 PM
reraise pf.

As played, c/f flop.

Phytopath
12-10-2006, 10:46 PM
I don't think there is anything wrong with calling PF, but your post flop play is awful

SirNeb
12-10-2006, 10:50 PM
Definitely bet flop harder. Your bet shows a lot of weakness. Someone might even call you with middle pair with that bet. You are betting for gut draw semibluffing, so might as well make it convincing.