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Bort99
12-10-2006, 12:51 PM
No reads. Rebop it preflop? Bet more on the flop? What to do on the turn?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $14.65
UTG+1: $10
CO: $20.80
Button: $9.30
Hero: $10.40
BB: $3.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $0.9</font>, Hero calls, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: J/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($2.8, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.5</font>, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: K/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($5.8, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $2</font>, Hero calls.

River: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($9.8, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $3</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $15.8

avfletch
12-10-2006, 01:01 PM
Reraise preflop otherwise you're basically playing QQ for set value.

Don't make weak bets that may get called/raised just because they look weak. You want to know where you stand, not making it harder for yourself.

hero
12-10-2006, 01:12 PM
i think you need to take steps to define your hand better, i'd raise to $2.5-3 here pf and bet 2/3'rds to a pot the flop. if we're raised pf re-evaluate, &amp; i'd think about betting the turn K too if he calls our flop bet. im new at nl, interested in others comments

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Don't make weak bets that may get called/raised just because they look weak.

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gimmetheloot
12-10-2006, 01:13 PM
Dont reraise pf. C/c flop and then c/f turn.

Check_The_Nuts
12-10-2006, 01:19 PM
I like the bet size on flop. Check/fold turn is probably a good idea.

Don't repop preflop, there's no need to define your hand, whatever that means.....They usually repop pretty tight.

hero
12-10-2006, 01:33 PM
if we reraise pf, we're opening up AK, AA, KK to reraise. (wa/wb, keep pot small) but when one of the better flops for our hand falls, we'll either check-call down (UI, assuming no overs), or make a 1/2 pot bet and fold to a scare overcard and a 1/3r'd pot bet? those are the lines?

it seems like button has us beat and is value betting, but we're oop and dont really know. how terrible is bet/folding the turn?

Check_The_Nuts
12-10-2006, 01:37 PM
the bluff costs half your stack and the K turn fits a lot of villians hands.

Half pot is good here because its a reraised pot. Reraised pots don't need as large cbets to take them down, because of the relative size of the bet to your stack.