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Berge20
12-10-2006, 02:55 AM
Hero is running at 25/12
SB is 22/11
Button is 30/15

I flubbed this one up from the start....prepare to puke.

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MP ($28.65)
CO ($36.45)
Button ($24.15)
SB ($18.80)
Hero ($30.45)
UTG ($10.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $2.25</font>, Hero calls $2, Button calls $1.25.

Probably should have repopped it. Button could have a wide range and SB knows this and is isolating. Granted, I'd be defining my hand fairly well here, but....

Flop: ($6.75) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, Button calls $5, SB folds.

Not a bad flop. Fire away.

Turn: ($16.75) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

I was completely lost here. Button flush drawing with overs? Jacks? Queens? AQ w/ nut flush draw? Meh for being OOP.

River: ($16.75) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $8.25</font>, Hero pukes.

Potentially the worst card in the deck. Now JJ is ahead, now AKh or AQh is ahead (or other flush)....about the only reasonable hand I beat is a AQo right?

Anyone try a river blocker here? Clear Ch-F?

My hindsight says:
Reraise PF
Bet turn
I'd be committed by the river

Mercman572
12-10-2006, 03:44 AM
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Hero is running at 25/12
SB is 22/11
Button is 30/15

I flubbed this one up from the start....prepare to puke.

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MP ($28.65)
CO ($36.45)
Button ($24.15)
SB ($18.80)
Hero ($30.45)
UTG ($10.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $2.25</font>, Hero calls $2, Button calls $1.25.

Probably should have repopped it. Button could have a wide range and SB knows this and is isolating. Granted, I'd be defining my hand fairly well here, but....

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OK, you know that you should have repopped, but I'll give you a few reasons why you don't have to worry about "defining your hand." Sometimes SB has something he can't get away from, and sometimes people think the BB is just getting steal happy when he raises over both of them (not usually, but sometimes). Oh, and SB's RR is too small for you to reasonably hope to get HU with hm. Oh well.

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Flop: ($6.75) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, Button calls $5, SB folds.

Not a bad flop. Fire away.

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No problems here.

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Turn: ($16.75) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

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I don't like this check unless it was to C/R AI, and I'm not getting the impression that that's what you were planning to do. There are plenty of draws out there to be checking right now.

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River: ($16.75) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $8.25</font>, Hero pukes.

Potentially the worst card in the deck. Now JJ is ahead, now AKh or AQh is ahead (or other flush)....about the only reasonable hand I beat is a AQo right?

Anyone try a river blocker here? Clear Ch-F?

My hindsight says:
Reraise PF
Bet turn
I'd be committed by the river

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Your hindsight is pretty good. A reraise PF and you easily get it in on the turn. The problem with c/fing here is that you really induced a bet from ATC here based on your actions. I don't really have any advice on river because your play on the previous streets has complicated this river way too much.

ajmargarine
12-10-2006, 03:47 AM
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My hindsight says:
Reraise PF
Bet turn
I'd be committed by the river

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No, you want to be committed and all-in on the turn. Bet $6 on the flop, push turn.

Mercman572
12-10-2006, 03:53 AM
Wow old man, up late

AMT
12-10-2006, 04:20 AM
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My hindsight says:
Reraise PF
Bet turn
I'd be committed by the river

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No, you want to be committed and all-in on the turn. Bet $6 on the flop, push turn.

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and rr pf, then i agree

CallYNotRaise06
12-10-2006, 05:01 AM
reraise preflop regardless. fps is bad.

bet turn.

orange
12-10-2006, 05:44 AM
4-bet PF.

KLJ
12-10-2006, 05:46 AM
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Probably should have repopped it. Button could have a wide range and SB knows this and is isolating.

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SB probably doesn't know this, lol. If he does, then he might think that you're only 4betting because he's 3betting light because BTN is 2betting light.

I think just 4bet pf.

Sir Winalot
12-10-2006, 06:09 AM
I 4-bet preflop all day. I hate checking that turn.