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Check_The_Nuts

12-09-2006, 02:40 PM

been abusing my button a lot, raising something like 40-50% of my hands. Villian has called 3 times preflop the last 3 times I raised on button, and bet into me. This is either the 3rd or 4th time he's done it, and I'm not having anymore of it. This a little too crazy?

Question two is how would you adapt? Tighten your button raising range? I wanted to experiment with not doing this /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

Probably some tilt in here too, but I haven't shown any signs of tilt up to this point.

Guy is 68/20/5. WTSD 21%, W$ 30%. Has a high bet % on turn.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $28.15
UTG+1: $27.60
CO: $34.90
Hero: $24.15
SB: $44.95
BB: $15

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($2.25, 2 players)
SB bets $1.25, Hero raises to $4, SB calls.

Turn: 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($10.25, 2 players)
SB bets $5.5, Hero raises all-in $19.15,

Panthro

12-09-2006, 02:46 PM

Given stats, I'm not bluffing this guy. Doesn't look like he likes to fold. He'll pay you off when you hit, so no need to force anything.

Voy Por Ustedes

12-09-2006, 02:57 PM

It's good to experiment but you have to be sensible. Even if you do think this guy is playing back at you light, bottom pair no kicker isn't the spot to be exploiting him; he's just too likely to call you down and you have hardly any SD value. Wait till you have a genuinely good hand or till you hit the flop hard and then do this...

Check_The_Nuts

12-09-2006, 05:16 PM

keep in mind his range is probably everything, he's been donking me over and over, and I want to take a stand. Probably a bad idea to raise 69s to begin with preflop on button with this sitaution going on.

His WTSD is only 20%, which is fairly low, considering how aggro he is. I think he'd probably call down with only a Q or better. I think he'll shove the flop with his best hands hoping I tilt call.

I guess outcrazying the crazies IS crazy!

Mercman572

12-09-2006, 06:13 PM

Do this with AQ+ postflop and I love it. As played, I absolutely hate it.

Seriously, what are you doing? First raise is questionable, but I don't hate that too much. Once he leads into you on the turn it's the easiest fold ever. Expect him to felt QJ+ here (and lesser holdings depending on how much of a donk he is).

King Car

12-09-2006, 07:07 PM

Against these types of villians, I dont want to play a big pot here.

After you raise the flop, I highly doubt he firing a 2nd barrel.

Check_The_Nuts

12-09-2006, 08:05 PM

yeah it was pretty stupid. I guess I should have tightened my button to any broadway, and felted top pair or somethin. Guy is a maniac tho, if you think about his frequencies, yet he's unwilling to put his stack in often (20% wtsd).

I really thought he'd push flop with anything legit.

He folded obviously.

VorShot

12-10-2006, 01:53 AM

When people start trying to play back at me with crap, i tight'n up and play any big hand as big as possible..

This happened today, every time i raised, he reraised preflop. AQo is the weakest hand i was playing like this againts him...and it seemed it was all i needed...

Check what he called with.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $2.10
UTG+1: $13.35
CO: $7.90
Button: $9.95
SB: $7.95
VorShot: $11

Pre-flop: (6 players) VorShot is BB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif
3 folds, Button calls, SB folds, SB folds, VorShot raises to $0.5, Button raises to $1.65, VorShot raises all-in $11, Button calls all-in $8.4.
Uncalled bets: $0.95 returned to VorShot.

Flop: Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($10.15, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $20.15)

Turn: J/images/graemlins/club.gif ($10.15, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $20.15)

River: 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($10.15, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $20.15)

Results:
Final pot: $10.15
VorShot showed Qd Ac
Button showed 8d 7c