View Full Version : 87s button steal vs SB on nasty board
HitNRunPoster
12-09-2006, 11:49 AM
SB is unknown.
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $16.30
UTG+1: $9.50
CO: $74.90
hero: $46.50
SB: $39.65
BB: $63.15
Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is Button with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls, BB folds.
Flop: T/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, hero checks.
Turn: T/images/graemlins/club.gif ($4.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $1.5</font>, hero calls.
River: 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($7.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $36.15</font>, hero calls.
Results:
Final pot: $79.8
HoldEmNewby
12-09-2006, 11:59 AM
against unknown river is a fold.
Imrahil
12-09-2006, 12:13 PM
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against unknown river is a fold.
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DntRazeMePlz
12-09-2006, 12:14 PM
I'm CBing here on the flop unless I have reason not to due to villain.
As played, I fold river.
Check_The_Nuts
12-09-2006, 12:17 PM
uhh I don't cbet. They don't fold top pair/middle pair nearly enough when your button stealing 40% of the time....
and this flop hit basically everything if he calls light preflop IMO.
DntRazeMePlz
12-09-2006, 12:24 PM
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uhh I don't cbet. They don't fold top pair/middle pair nearly enough when your button stealing 40% of the time....
and this flop hit basically everything if he calls light preflop IMO.
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I can certainly understand your logic here but I've been finding that surprisingly I've been getting folds more than enough on these boards to make it profitable. That + increasing my chances at a free turn in addition to making the pot larger for the turn if I do hit so I can bloat it by river to get paid off the maximum amount and still maintain my standard betting patterns. Do you feel as though checking here is more EV?
Check_The_Nuts
12-09-2006, 12:29 PM
yes, draw isn't strong enough to continue against any kind of pressure. And a lot of guys will check raise this flop with two pair etc.
River is an easyish fold.
Sir Winalot
12-09-2006, 12:48 PM
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against unknown river is a fold.
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No, no, nononooooo!! I would snapcall the river.
DntRazeMePlz
12-09-2006, 12:54 PM
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against unknown river is a fold.
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No, no, nononooooo!! I would snapcall the river.
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Am I being 2nd leveled here or is this serious. If so, please elaborate.
Antinome
12-09-2006, 06:44 PM
I'm betting this flop very hard and calling his river bet.
This is like, any K plenty of the time.
King Car
12-09-2006, 06:53 PM
I'm betting the flop here almost all the time.
HitNRunPoster
12-10-2006, 09:59 AM
bump
Sir Winalot
12-10-2006, 10:55 AM
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against unknown river is a fold.
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No, no, nononooooo!! I would snapcall the river.
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Am I being 2nd leveled here or is this serious. If so, please elaborate.
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Any K will do this all day, a slowplayed AK twice a day.
testaaja
12-10-2006, 11:11 AM
I pot the flop and go from there. As played fold the river.
gimmetheloot
12-10-2006, 12:18 PM
HNR, very easy fold on the river.
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