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Sdpockarl
12-08-2006, 09:45 PM
Im sitting in a table with full buy in

And getting AQ s in late


The guy Utg raises 20 big blinds

Pushing or folding ?? /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Antinome
12-08-2006, 09:47 PM
dump it.

Panthro
12-08-2006, 09:57 PM
please fold.

Sdpockarl
12-08-2006, 10:03 PM
What handrange can we set a Villian on who is open raising

20 bigblinds

Ben K
12-08-2006, 10:12 PM
You should fold.

You might want to call (or push) and totally screw up the hand if you think there's enough cash on the table for you to make back (and more) once you've convinced the smart people that you're a donkey. However, it's rare to get a table paying that much attention.

On the other hand, it has been mentioned several times that huge overbets from UTG are often mid pairs not wanting any action and trying to scare people out. If you think you can handle the situation post flop then it may be +EV to call as you have position. However, you are essentially bluffing from the flop onwards (unless you get real lucky on the flop and a Q high flop ain't lucky in this situation) and really need more info on villain to do this, preferably someone else calling his huge overbet and then finding out what he means by it.

Antinome
12-08-2006, 10:13 PM
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What handrange can we set a Villian on who is open raising

20 bigblinds

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Well you didn't say what his stack size is, or anything else really useful about him, so we credit him with TT+AQ+ until proven otherwise. And that is a WIDE range.

ADK
12-08-2006, 10:22 PM
fold for sure

grouchie
12-08-2006, 10:23 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Im sitting in a table with full buy in

And getting AQ s in late


The guy Utg raises 20 big blinds

Pushing or folding ?? /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

is there a history here?
any reads?

w/o reads this is an easy fold.

kurto
12-08-2006, 10:37 PM
does the guy always raise to 20bb? How often is he raising? Has he ever shown down?

Sdpockarl
12-08-2006, 11:08 PM
he seemed to play pretty crazy, But he had not made a raise
like that before. I think he most likely holding something like 55 to 1010 or what ? I cannot set him on a hand like QQ or KK AA. I just asked because i have played over 30000 hand online and have ever seen a raise like that, and was wondering about what the right play was.

Panthro
12-08-2006, 11:10 PM
[ QUOTE ]
What handrange can we set a Villian on who is open raising

20 bigblinds

[/ QUOTE ]

It's best not to ask questions regarding the innerworkings of a donk who would open raise to 20 BB's /images/graemlins/smile.gif