All-in preflop with 88?

[kekedarius]

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MP ($8.55)
CO ($9.85)
Button ($15.85)
Hero ($9.05)
BB ($6)
UTG ($11.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9.05</font>, CO calls $6.05.

Flop: ($18.20) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: ($18.20) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($18.20) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $18.20

Villain is standard weak-tight with stats of 20/20/1. I figured I would be staring down something like AKs and be put at ~55% win. Is it ever wise to go all-in preflop with low-mid pp?

[Ra_]

either call or make a decent sized reraise pf. I don't think there is any reason to reraise at these stakes with 88.

as for your second decision, this is really bad. you need to fold to his huge 4-bet. Hes never folding and your going to way behind almost always.

[kekedarius]

I made the 4-bet.

[Ra_]

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I made the 4-bet.

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you made the 3-bet. that term confused me a fisrt too.

raise -&gt; 3bet -&gt; 4bet, The terms come from limit.

At nl10 i would only reraise JJ+ and AK, and rasie at least 3 times the previous raise

[kekedarius]

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I made the 4-bet.

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you made the 3-bet. that term confused me a fisrt too.

raise -&gt; 3bet -&gt; 4bet, The terms come from limit.

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oh jeez /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[CaptVimes]

I think this is pure spew. What were you trying to do with your push? What do you think villain would call with? When he re-raises you I put him on JJ+ and maybe AKs, but AKs and JJ will usually only call after getting re-raised. If he called you with any other hands he is not a tight player. You can't put him on only one hand here. When you put him on a range of hands you can see that your beat more than your ahead. If he has JJ-AA you got about a 20% chance to win and with AK your about a coin flip. Do you have any other reads besides his stats to make you do this, because his stats don't make me think this is good idea? I'm glad you spiked your 8 on the river, but this is not a good move because it worked. What did villain have?

Call the raise preflop looking to flop a set.

[Vegetarian]

This is very very bad.

Reraising PF is fine, but don't minraise raise to at least 1.2 if youre reraise.

Then when he 4-bets you have a very easy fold. Your pretty much never going to be ahead here, especially against someone who you say is weak tight. And after he makes that 3$ 4-bet you basically have 0 fold equity at this level.

This is just very very very bad, don't ever do this.

[DanJ.]

This is horrible...if you wanna 3bet him make it more than a minraise, fold to his 4bet.

[Sir Winalot]

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Villain is standard weak-tight with stats of 20/20/1.

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Not weak-tight.

Your preflop minraise is weak-tight, raise to 1.3 if you have to. However, I would call his preflop raise and flop a set. If not, I would usually let it just go. As played, fold to the 4-bet.

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Is it ever wise to go all-in preflop with low-mid pp?

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Not readless with full stacks.

[SavageMiser]

You're out of position with a mid-pair. Just call the raise and check-fold if you don't hit the flop. Easy to play. When you do hit in this situation you're likely to get paid well for it.

The pre-flop re-raise is spew, IMO.

[MadMike]

I wouldn't be reraising 88 here unless it is against a LAGtard with stats like 50/35/3 or something. Then if you reraise, make it bigger. You're not looking to play 88 OOP in a big pot (which is what your mini re-raise does), you want to take it down right there.

Against any non-idiot, this is a flat call PF. Flop a set and bust him.