More ways of making easy money on the internet?

[aflaba2]

I've been playing poker part time for almost 2 years now. I percieve it as pretty hard and stressful work. But since it pays very well I consider the earn/hard work ratio to be very high.

The same is even more true when discussing casino bonus abusing. Doing that is really easy money, although it isn't as lucrative, challenging, stimulating and fun as poker.

These are two, what I consider, easy ways of making money that I conisder myself fortunate to have discovered.

I discoverd poker pretty much by chance.

That makes me wonder... Are there any similarily "easy" ways of making money online? Ways that I have missed. In fact they don't need to be easy at all. What is important is that the earning potential is good and that I can do it on my own.

Are there more oppurtunities out there?

[noggindoc]

porn?

[Lady Dont Tekno]

if it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

[Alobar]

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if it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

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seems like every young girl with a hot ass, a slutty disposition, and a web cam is.

[MicroBob]

I haven't done the e-bay thing.
But it doesn't look that hard to me.


buy a bunch of refurbished laptops (or some other item) in bulk. Sell them on e-bay for a higher price.

There's a little more than just hanging around the internet (since you may be the one who has to package them and sell them) but it's pretty close imo.



I also like all those commercials for 'how would you like to make easy money at home...even in your underwear' (it's usually a real-estate thing I think...but maybe an e-bay thing).
I always think, "Heh!! I already do!!"

[aflaba2]

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if it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

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Yeah. I thought that was true. But over the last two years I've found out that is very false statement. Not just considering online money making, but all alspects of life.

People generally don't leave their frames. And most people have similair and narrow frames. If you leave the general frame you can get good return with little investment... and still not have everyone doing it.

[MicroBob]

Generally true.


For anyone who has any discipline at all, making money at internet-poker should be so easy that anyone can do it.

Most people can't however.

[kfellmy]

I do know of some people who made a killing with their internet porn site (the owner of Party Poker!!). Several other guys I know have also made a killing with internet porn, just not on a scale as large as the Party Poker owner. It is a lucrative business and costs are not as high as starting your own poker site.

Starting an ebay business is easy. I would search for a category of stuff to sell once a week. The search is for a category of things that I would never buy, and know nothing about. Skip beanie babies though, they suck. One category that I found that sells high is old time tubes...the ones for radios and TVs. Most sell for only a few bucks, but the ones from GE and Westinghouse sell quite high. Some go for over 1,000 dollars...and you don't have to sit at a tough 100/200 table to get it either. I can imagine myself running into an old TV repair store in some run down section of a small rural town. My specialty was high end pool cues (nothing under 1000 dollars); medium value cues (easily found at pawn shops or at bars with known money games where a player goes broke and sells his cue to keep playing); heavy metal CDs (not Metallica, Slayer, or other gay crap, but death/black metal), I did sell other CDs as metal doesn't come up to much at garage sales; hard to find books (easily found at garage sales); also used to sell some antiques and glassware but with all the fakes I got out of this.

Now that I have poker I no longer sell anything other than sinkers on ebay. That is just because I like making sinkers. I also sell spinnerbaits, buzzbaits and spoons.

i do it just as a supplement to my income of poker. I take care of my grandmother (Alzheimer's) so I have to be here in the condo with her. I sell sinkers wholesale to bait shops and guides here in Fort Myers. Problem is that now the snowbirds are here, along with tourists, so I don't get to play poker as much as I would like.

If I didn't have to stay home with the grandmother I would still be out at garage sales buying stuff to re-sell on ebay. I like doing ebay and it doesn't take that much to pack items up if you already have the boxes and packing. An hour or two a day is all you need and that is on the real busy days. Normally it takes less than time than that.

[econophile]

become a WoW pro. better yet, create a sweatshop in a third-world country to play WoW and then sell stuff on the internet. i read a story about someone doing this. wish i had a link.

also, pyramid schemes.

[dibbs]

Spamming, you could be a web cam girl.

[RiverFenix]

12dailypro = easiest money forever

[Dave H.]

I love sharing this story about my "gambling" experience. Hope it doesn't bore you...

I had about $10k left from my BJ counting days that I had just left in a savings account. In the very late 90s, Internet gambling really started to pick up steam. There was no poker to speak of yet.

I blew about $1,100 playing around at different casinos and was pretty much ready to give it up when I made an unbelievable discovery:

Many online casinos back then were handing out 20% bonuses. They were incredibly lucrative but there was no doubt (in MY mind, at least) that the software was quite rigged. Anyway, some of these places (4 in particular) were giving 20% on $10,000 (that's a $2,000 bonus!) and the requirement was simply that you must wager your deposit plus the bonus (ONE TIME!) before you could withdraw any bonus money. So if you deposited $1,000 and they gave you $200, you would have to wager a total of at least $1,200 before you could have the $200 released to your account. AND THEY WERE DOING THIS EVERY WEEK!!

Those casinos who were using one particular piece of software for their craps game (and there were a number of them using this software) would apply any $ on a craps table toward the total required to be wagered EVEN IF THE $ WAS NOT AT RISK FOR THAT ROLL OF THE DICE.

For instance, on the come out roll you might have $10 on the pass line and let's say a 6 is rolled, making 6 the number you're shooting for. You've now wagered $10. Your original $10 is still out there and the dice are rolled again and it's an 8. You have neither won nor lost; however the software adds another $10 to the total you have wagered toward the bonus release. Now a 9 is rolled. Once again, you have neither won nor lost, but again the software applies another $10 toward the total you have wagered.

The result: Unless an inordinate number of sevens are rolled, it was EXTREMELY easy (and FAST) to wager the amount required AND have most of the bonus left.

I was making ridiculous amounts of $ for about a year. They finally locked my account and that was the end of that, but what an incredible time I had for that year!

Today, for the most part, craps is excluded from most bonuses AND you'll see that that most bonuses clear much, much more slowly, i.e. you may get 100% or even 200% bonuses, but you have to wager a zillion times your deposit plus your bonus.

[The Bride]

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For anyone who has any discipline at all

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Probably a pretty small proportion of the population when all is said and done.

[aflaba2]

OK. So porn and ebay.

Porn is really not what I want to do, also I imagine it's too late to make it big there.'

Ebay on the other hand sounds like a blast. But unfortunatly I can't do it big since I live in the much smaller market of Sweden?

I'll try to milk a few drops more out of this thread.

Any more ideas?

[Chief911]

Just because you live in Sweden doesnt count you out.

You get distributors of your product (Whatever that is) who are willing to drop ship your product to customers. So you negotiate a price on 20 items with the distributor, then resell the item on ebay. Once you have the $$, you send the address to the distributor who drop ships it for you. Viola~

Nick

[Nut4Dawgs]

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You get distributors of your product...

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One of the best examples I ever saw was a guy here in the states with family back in a S. American country. One of them had a business making burial caskets.

Guy here was having lunch at a business club meeting and met a funeral parlor owner. Got to talking with him and mentioned his cousin's business. Acted as middle man for a trial order that led to more orders. Wound up starting a casket import business and does great.

Can you find a local company manufacturing something that could be exported to and sold in the U.S. or any other consumer country? You put up a web site and market it for the guy. You can sell individual pieces or wholesale lots. You work out a commission deal.

[aflaba2]

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Just because you live in Sweden doesnt count you out.

You get distributors of your product (Whatever that is) who are willing to drop ship your product to customers. So you negotiate a price on 20 items with the distributor, then resell the item on ebay. Once you have the $$, you send the address to the distributor who drop ships it for you. Viola~

Nick

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That's an interesting idea you and Nut4Dawgs are talking about. I'll try to keep it in the back of my head and be perceptive about oppurtunities.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

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if it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

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False assumption. There are tons of easy ways of making money not taken. The percentage of people that actually actively seek for new creative ways to make money is much fewer than the possibility the online (and B&M /images/graemlins/smile.gif) economy offer.

I remember I was thinking a bit like that when I started in sales, if that 1,000+ employee company would buy this if somebody asked, somebody would have asked already. Then you ask them and discover that nobody has. Next company, same story. And after two years time, I realized I would only be able to cover appx. 10% of the opportunities seen. The remaining 90% are still there, up for grabs. Talked to creative people in other businesses/markets, same story there. It is a psychological barrier to cross, once you have crossed it you make more money than 97% of the population.

The fun part, is that the majority of those who read this will not believe me, but that is just showing why it is like this.

[Nut4Dawgs]

You make a very good point. Also, sometimes the wrong person is asked the right questions or vice versa. The right presentation to the right person, I've found, works more often than not.

[idrinkcoors]

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if it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

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False assumption. There are tons of easy ways of making money not taken. The percentage of people that actually actively seek for new creative ways to make money is much fewer than the possibility the online (and B&M /images/graemlins/smile.gif) economy offer.

I remember I was thinking a bit like that when I started in sales, if that 1,000+ employee company would buy this if somebody asked, somebody would have asked already. Then you ask them and discover that nobody has. Next company, same story. And after two years time, I realized I would only be able to cover appx. 10% of the opportunities seen. The remaining 90% are still there, up for grabs. Talked to creative people in other businesses/markets, same story there. It is a psychological barrier to cross, once you have crossed it you make more money than 97% of the population.

The fun part, is that the majority of those who read this will not believe me, but that is just showing why it is like this.

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I believe you, but have not yet crossed that psychological barrier yet. Care to share any insights, or is that a barrier we each have to discover ourselves? Thanks.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

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I believe you, but have not yet crossed that psychological barrier yet. Care to share any insights, or is that a barrier we each have to discover ourselves? Thanks.

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Tough question. I really don't know.

For me personally, it was an eye-opener when I discovered that knowledge is usually at a higher level than execution, meaning i.e. that an average worker knows a smarter way of doing his job, but he prefers to do it the common way. This seems to aggregate at a macro level as well, so that the average company do not conduct its business optimally based on the knowledge it has avalailable (it moves in that direction, but with a backlog).

So, you have to move out of your comfort zone and trust that your own judgement is better than common practice. It is not because you are smarter than others, but because the vast majority of people choose to follow common practice even if they know it is not optimal. Once you do this, you are one step ahead. When you are one step ahead, you will be able to attack opportunities others do not attack.

[g3rkshz]

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