$50NL FD OOP, This didn't feel right

[Spleen]

First orbit
The stack size giving me problem here I think. Just confused.

Edit: I guess a better question would be, how deep do we have to be to make this call? a push?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $92.55
UTG+1: $106.10
CO: $20
Button: $35.80
Hero: $51.35
BB: $50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $1</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($3, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2.5</font>, BB calls, CO calls.

Turn: 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($10.5, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $10.5</font>, Hero folds, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $10.5 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $10.5

[the machine]

looks good to me. sometimes i double barrel as a blocker to see a cheap river because most villains will bet when checked to on this turn

[larry the legend]

consider a turn bet of 3-4 dollars to price yourself in(if you also make this play with huge hands occasionally your opponent will be unlikely to raise you here without a set) if he calls this bet you make +EV with a value bet or large bet on the river when you hit your flush

[Spleen]

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consider a turn bet of 3-4 dollars to price yourself in(if you also make this play with huge hands occasionally your opponent will be unlikely to raise you here without a set) if he calls this bet you make +EV with a value bet or large bet on the river when you hit your flush

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So if my $3-4 turn bet gets raised AI I'm calling right?

[the machine]

no. youre making that bet to try to set a price to draw. if he raises you fold. its just a draw. but were trying to take advatage of him sitting there with his set going ooooooo im gonna trap him so hard

[AMT]

this line is fine, IMO

[gimmetheloot]

dont. bet. 3. dollars.

[the machine]

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dont. bet. 3. dollars.

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yes if u bet its 7$

[gimmetheloot]

Dont. Bet. Here. Ever.

CO is a shortie, and he is going nowhere. then you have BB to act behind you, though it is very, very likely he folds to a 2nd barrel given how he has played his hand. Chances that CO do after calling the flop bet and having ~14 left or something are very slim. check, hope it gets checked around, and only call if you are givin 3:1 or better.

[larry the legend]

like the machine said, you definitely fold to a raise other than a minimum....again you cant make the play unless you occasionally run bluffs with this line or monsters with this line also ( monsters so he only raises the very best hands, and sometimes then he even checks those because he thinks you could be bluffing so he wants you to fire again on the river)....also im not saying his line is terrible, it's a semibluff and it should be run pretty infrequently for that size of a bet after the flop call of a close to pot sized bet by a preflop raiser

[gimmetheloot]

should never be run, unless you play big hands like this alot more than draws. and either way, in this spot, with CO in there and never elaving, and likely pushing, i never do this.

[the machine]

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Dont. Bet. Here. Ever.

CO is a shortie, and he is going nowhere. then you have BB to act behind you, though it is very, very likely he folds to a 2nd barrel given how he has played his hand. Chances that CO do after calling the flop bet and having ~14 left or something are very slim. check, hope it gets checked around, and only call if you are givin 3:1 or better.

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ohh didnt notice he was a shortie. yeah i def dont bet here. full stacks though i do bet from time to time prolly like 50% of the time

[larry the legend]

7$ is too much....you are going to hit 9/46 (could be 7/46)and you are putting in 7/24????....thats not pricing in your draw...3/16 4/18 are where its at

[larry the legend]

shortie does change things i missed that too....i might still try $3 or $4 at least half the time or c/f to a bet over $5 or $6

[the machine]

nah that weak of a bet just shows weakness. id raise with air

[larry the legend]

i disagree

[larry the legend]

against a TAG you might raise with air everytime....