NL $25 pocket 3s SB defense

[mrpotto]

Villain had raised 3 buttons in a row on me and I decided to play back here. No reads other than that. Anyone call for whole stack with measly 3s?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $33
UTG+1: $32.55
CO: $21.15
hero: $24.40
SB: $35
BB: $26.05

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is Button with http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-content/images/classic-cards/3c.png http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-content/images/classic-cards/3s.png
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $2.75</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-content/images/classic-cards/5d.png http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-content/images/classic-cards/8h.png http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-content/images/classic-cards/4d.png ($5.85, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $18.4</font>, hero ???

[nyc999]

Had he been raising from the CO or when you were in the SB? Anyway, I prefer a flat call and play a decent-sized pot in position rather than a bloated pot where &gt;80% of the time you'll be facing a 3-overcard flop.

As played, I fold to the raise.

[Gelford]

That is so readdependent that it hurts, but I must admit that with a good read, I would. Without a read no, but with a read yes.

[I_HATE_TIHSKID]

My first post, lurking for a while.

I would never call.

The problem is that when you are behind to a higher pair you are drawing to 2 outs and when you are ahead he usually have at least 6 outs, sometimes more when he has a flush draw or whatever.

I let this go every time.

[mrpotto]

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Had he been raising from the CO or when you were in the SB?

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I was going on memory here and misrepped our positions. Point was that he was raising a lot from cutoff and the button and what I recall the most is his button play with me in the SB.

[Badger83]

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...I prefer a flat call and play a decent-sized pot in position rather than a bloated pot where &gt;80% of the time you'll be facing a 3-overcard flop.

As played, I fold to the raise.

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I do this /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[BukNaked36]

Fold. CO is putting you on missed overs. I think he has a pair of some sort and you're screwed.

[mrpotto]

Well I thought about it for the full 15 secs and I ending up putting the villian on missed overs so I called. He showed AJ and my 3s held up. Putting aside the results, I think the right move was to fold though (for all the reason cited in your replies). Thanks for confirming.

[mrpotto]

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...I prefer a flat call and play a decent-sized pot in position rather than a bloated pot where &gt;80% of the time you'll be facing a 3-overcard flop.

As played, I fold to the raise.



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So same flop comes out and the villian makes the standard cbet. My next move is to min raise right? Lol, I mean a pot size reraise?

[nyc999]

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...I prefer a flat call and play a decent-sized pot in position rather than a bloated pot where &gt;80% of the time you'll be facing a 3-overcard flop.

As played, I fold to the raise.



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So same flop comes out and the villian makes the standard cbet. My next move is to min raise right? Lol, I mean a pot size reraise?

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I was talking about preflop. You're basically playing for set value, unless you have a strong read otherwise. If you want to take it away from villain, you can float and raise the turn (representing strength) - but you're getting into dangerous territory if the read is incorrect.

[Kmon]

good read, good post, From the info you explained to us, it doesn't sound like that bad of a call, but it was bloated, and i've read that a lot of overbets don't want to be called. Adding my noob 2 cents, good thread learned some from it.