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Chaos_ult
11-28-2006, 11:30 PM
..and flop an interesting hand.

Can anything but pushing the turn be correct given stack sizes?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $47.55
CO: $78.05
Hero: $53.65
SB: $34
BB: $53.15

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($4.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($34.5, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $17</font>...
Oranzith
11-29-2006, 12:46 AM
i just push the turn. this is a situation for FE not value
wingchunflush
11-29-2006, 12:47 AM
You didnt shove on the turn. I would bet more like 20 or so.
sparker
11-29-2006, 12:49 AM
check on the turn would be a nice little move
Oranzith
11-29-2006, 12:58 AM
what are the benefits of checking the turn? basically any overcard, for that matter, any blank and you have to lay down to a large bet. blank and i cringe calling a 1/2 PSB with a pair of tens. if you hit your straight, its basically the most transparent thing in the world as you suddenly wake up on the river
Chaos_ult
11-29-2006, 01:07 AM
I effectively pushed the turn.

Villain had 17 left.
sparker
11-29-2006, 01:09 AM
i take back the check in this situation...seeing as ~1/2 of villians stack is already in the middle pushing seems the best option. if the pot was smaller relative to the stack sizes i like a check on the turn to keep the pot small
ImprovinNewbie
11-29-2006, 01:27 AM
i would 25 or pot it.
Duerig
11-29-2006, 12:53 PM
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i just push the turn. this is a situation for FE not value

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How many outs does villain have?
jively
11-29-2006, 03:06 PM
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How many outs does villain have?

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If he has a 7 or an 8, he has 5 outs. If he has a T with a worse kicker, he has 3 outs. If he has a 9 for an OESD, he has 8 outs (to a chop, although he couldn't know that).

What else might he have, donk/call the flop, and check the turn? We could be behind as well, maybe to a JT.

-Tom