Frosteater
11-28-2006, 03:16 PM
I think there's a pretty standard play for this hand. I just don't know if I made it.
Absolutely no reads, this was my second hand on that table.
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SB ($8.10)
Frosteater ($9.90)
UTG ($7.10)
MP ($7.10)
CO ($1.75)
Button ($4.50)
Preflop: Frosteater is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $0.45, <font color="#CC3333">Frosteater raises to $1.75</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $1.25 (All-In), SB calls $1.25.
<font color="blue">The re-raise here was probably way over the top and I wouldn't have played it that way under different circumstances. The problem was the aggression from the shortstack. I was expecting the shortstack to lead the flop regardless of which cards would come and I'd be in a tough spot if I missed, especially in the multiway pot I expected to get in if I didn't take countermeasurements. On the other hand, a simple raise wouldn't result in a much different scenario since the shortstack would be basically pot-commited after calling my raise, so I wouldn't really know where I stand.
That said, maybe folding pre-flop would have been the best decision, since I had absolutely no range I could put my opponent on (besides my standard 1010+ / AQ+ assumption).
I actually thought about folding until my "You really try to push me off the button while I have a strong hand? Good luck, you'll need it!" attitude got the upper hand.
In retrospect, I should have considered the fact that I wasn't even on the button. I know, it was pathetic, I don't have a clue what I was thinking. I still would have pushed, if I knew what I was doing, tho, since I expected the SB to fold facing that much aggression. </font>
Flop: ($5.35) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Frosteater bets $6.35</font>, SB folds.
<font color="blue">I assume that was a really terrible play on my part. At that moment I lost every respect for money and just wanted to instill fear in my opponent. I guess I got away with that since I represented a really strong hand pre-flop. Besides, I don't raise to 17.5 BB pre-flop just to sit quietly on the flop and wait for the things to come.</font>
Final Pot: $5.35
Though this hand didn't give much room for decisions (I think, folding and pushing were the only options), the overall situation really bugs me. I had the choice between folding a strong hand on the button (at least I thought so) and letting lady luck decide who'd win.
I thought a lot about this hand, since it seemed to me like a loose-loose decision (and my opponent decided to disagree with my play more or less polite - every form of criticism is welcome), so I'd really appreciate some opinions.
And feel free to laugh at me for the button fiasco. I'm doing the same right now.
Absolutely no reads, this was my second hand on that table.
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SB ($8.10)
Frosteater ($9.90)
UTG ($7.10)
MP ($7.10)
CO ($1.75)
Button ($4.50)
Preflop: Frosteater is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $0.45, <font color="#CC3333">Frosteater raises to $1.75</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $1.25 (All-In), SB calls $1.25.
<font color="blue">The re-raise here was probably way over the top and I wouldn't have played it that way under different circumstances. The problem was the aggression from the shortstack. I was expecting the shortstack to lead the flop regardless of which cards would come and I'd be in a tough spot if I missed, especially in the multiway pot I expected to get in if I didn't take countermeasurements. On the other hand, a simple raise wouldn't result in a much different scenario since the shortstack would be basically pot-commited after calling my raise, so I wouldn't really know where I stand.
That said, maybe folding pre-flop would have been the best decision, since I had absolutely no range I could put my opponent on (besides my standard 1010+ / AQ+ assumption).
I actually thought about folding until my "You really try to push me off the button while I have a strong hand? Good luck, you'll need it!" attitude got the upper hand.
In retrospect, I should have considered the fact that I wasn't even on the button. I know, it was pathetic, I don't have a clue what I was thinking. I still would have pushed, if I knew what I was doing, tho, since I expected the SB to fold facing that much aggression. </font>
Flop: ($5.35) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Frosteater bets $6.35</font>, SB folds.
<font color="blue">I assume that was a really terrible play on my part. At that moment I lost every respect for money and just wanted to instill fear in my opponent. I guess I got away with that since I represented a really strong hand pre-flop. Besides, I don't raise to 17.5 BB pre-flop just to sit quietly on the flop and wait for the things to come.</font>
Final Pot: $5.35
Though this hand didn't give much room for decisions (I think, folding and pushing were the only options), the overall situation really bugs me. I had the choice between folding a strong hand on the button (at least I thought so) and letting lady luck decide who'd win.
I thought a lot about this hand, since it seemed to me like a loose-loose decision (and my opponent decided to disagree with my play more or less polite - every form of criticism is welcome), so I'd really appreciate some opinions.
And feel free to laugh at me for the button fiasco. I'm doing the same right now.