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Check_The_Nuts
11-24-2006, 05:50 PM
Anyone like this? I'm taggy 20/10/4 or somethin. Villian is 27/5/1.5 over 160 hands. 1.75/1.75/0.67 on flop/turn/river aggression. Only folds flop 23%, turn 26%. Obviously don't do this often, and I doubt I have bluffed yet this session.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $10.80
CO: $9.40
Button: $8.20
SB: $11.30
Hero: $14.40

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif ($0.4, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.4</font>, CO calls, 2 folds.

Turn: A/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($1.2, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.9</font>,

Unknown Soldier
11-24-2006, 06:01 PM
I don't like it, the players at this level wont realise you havent bluffed this session. Bluffing here is -EV imo. Also, your bluff doesnt make a whole lot of sense, what are you trying to represent here?

Check_The_Nuts
11-24-2006, 06:03 PM
uhhh a set/straight.

Unknown Soldier
11-24-2006, 06:06 PM
well whatever you are trying to do villain isnt paying attention anyway, so theres no point in getting fancy, just let this go.

Vinetou
11-24-2006, 06:08 PM
Some players at these limits call you on the flop with ace rag, hoping to hit an ace. It depends on reads, I think, if you want to make a move.

Check_The_Nuts
11-24-2006, 06:09 PM
you did read his stats right? I'm not bluffing an 80/20/5 here. His stats are pretty tag.

Unknown Soldier
11-24-2006, 06:12 PM
if hes capable of folding a decent hand then I guess this is ok, but I would stlll never try this at this level.

BevillTheDevil
11-24-2006, 06:21 PM
well since he only folds 25%ish of the time, i dont think you have much FE plus only 8 high so a bluff here can't be a +EV move and even if you havent bluffed yet i doubt he knows that. I would wait until you have a hand cause hes callin 75%ish the time.

Check_The_Nuts
11-24-2006, 06:24 PM
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well since he only folds 25%ish of the time, i dont think you have much FE plus only 8 high so a bluff here can't be a +EV move and even if you havent bluffed yet i doubt he knows that. I would wait until you have a hand cause hes callin 75%ish the time.

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this is a good point. My counter arguement is he calls the flop with 75% of the hands he holds, and its unlikely he'd bet the ace with a decent king/ace, fearing i'd just fold. So this turn bet by him is probably a bluff a large % of the time. He calls turn bets 70%, but I doubt he calls turn raises that often.

BevillTheDevil
11-24-2006, 06:36 PM
well if your read tells you he will fold turn raises then have at it...but if he calls then i would note it and probably never do an absolute bluff again

Vinetou
11-24-2006, 06:40 PM
A good read then.

Sir Winalot
11-24-2006, 08:02 PM
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Only folds flop 23%, turn 26%.

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You have a read, use it to your advantage. Bluffing here is plain stupid IMO.

Archon_Wing
11-24-2006, 08:27 PM
If you want to bluff, just bet out. Check raise bluff seems to be kinda FPS here.

Mal_Pais
11-25-2006, 10:26 AM
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I'm not bluffing an 80/20/5 here.

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Me neither. My bluff victims must have shown the ability to actually fold somewhere in a hand. A piece of work like this guy is actually a better candidate for me slowplaying than bluffing.

Check his stats again. This guy couldn't read a straight on the board if you showed the two cards that make the straight. And you couldn't pry a K out of his cold, dead fingers.

I sometimes run bluffs, only to be dissappointed by my Villian's "inability" to put me on the big hand I'm repping. Then I remember, at the price of a hit to my bankroll, that I make money on loose players that call too much. Bluffing these players goes against the grain of what makes them such profitable opponents.