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Check_The_Nuts
11-23-2006, 02:45 AM
Only 10 hands, but the guy literally hasn't folded post flop yet. Anyone like this play? his VPIP ~30 (pretty ambiguous IMO). He's only winning 1/5th of his showdowns. Oh, took me a long time to push (as you can imagine!)

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
Hero: $64.40
CO: $13.40
Button: $14.85
SB: $49.30
BB: $34.75

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($2.35, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $52.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO calls all-in $8.9</font>.
Uncalled bets: $40.1 returned to Hero.

Turn: 4/images/graemlins/club.gif ($27.15, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $27.15)


River: T/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($27.15, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $27.15)


Results:
Final pot: $27.15

Grunch
11-23-2006, 02:48 AM
You're going to have to show a guy like this a hand. I'm folding to the raise.

Check_The_Nuts
11-23-2006, 02:51 AM
pushing for value, if you can believe that

Grunch
11-23-2006, 03:01 AM
I he a maniac?

Check_The_Nuts
11-23-2006, 03:06 AM
hasn't folded the flop turn or river in any of the 10 hands. When he made the minraise I said to myself oh [censored], gotta fold, then I noticed his fold percentages on each street being exactly 0....

Grunch
11-23-2006, 03:16 AM
but theres a big difference betweenbeing a calling station and being a maniac...

eigenvalue
11-23-2006, 04:24 AM
General advice:

Against these kind of players, I don't like to put my entire stack on one hand, guessing if I'm good or not. You should take flops with that player with drawing hands and raise him with strong hands. Every time You catch TPGK or second pair ace kicker, You can bet an amount he calls. Because this guy takes so many flops and calls You down with any draw or any pair, even low pair and low kicker, I try to win several pots of a medium amount against these players. There's no need to win that one big pot against them. If he reraises You, You should be done with that hand. Take their stack step by step and be a little patient.

Last night a similar player was sitting to my right. Within 1 hour, I managed to win something like 5-10 pots against him. I won no monster pot but every pot had a medium size and grew from flop to turn to river. Most of the time, I tried to figure out a bet size he would call with a weak pair. In the end, my stack size was exactly 2.5 x buy-ins and it grew constantly during that hour every 3-5 orbits.

Check_The_Nuts
11-23-2006, 11:01 AM
ah sorry grunch, no he wasn't the passive type. His bet frequency was fairly large as well. Its a very small number of hands tho, to draw conclusions...

Check_The_Nuts
11-23-2006, 11:03 AM
results were, I stacked his KJo. I felt I had been active at the time this hand happened as well, and the board was near enough to ideal for me to shove.