View Full Version : 50 nl 6max- taking passive line against tight player
CaseS87
11-22-2006, 10:28 PM
sb is 17/14.7/3.5 over 400 hands- all hands are datamined
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)
Stack sizes:
UTG: $31.65
UTG+1: $73.25
CO: $23.65
Button: $50.30
SB: $48
Hero: $69.35
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.
Flop: A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif ($3, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $1.5</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds.
Turn: 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($6, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $2.5</font>, Hero calls.
River: Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($11, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $8</font>, Hero calls.
Results:
Final pot: $27
pr0crast
11-22-2006, 10:41 PM
I'm amazed you didn't find a spot to raise in here. I'd reraise preflop. If not, I'd raise the flop. Failing that, I'd raise the turn. Failing that, I'd raise the river.
Bowlboy
11-22-2006, 10:53 PM
I dont think I RR this PF without a some more info on UTG. If I were to RR here I want to take it down right there and not see the flop oop. I admit UTG's PFR looks kinda weak but that could easily be AA-QQ trying to get action.
I like the call on the flop here to see what UTG does.
On the turn Id make it about $8 to go.
As played, I probably just call the river here, but If you had been more aggressive there likely wouldnt have been a river card.
Check_The_Nuts
11-23-2006, 02:02 AM
I think raising preflop is really bad. Probably better to do this with a hand like 22 or 33 or somethin of the like.
Is he hyper aggressive? Looks like his preflop call range is pairs/AK, and I'm not really believing he'd bet the river with AK (unless your an unknown, even then?). I'd call the river.....
I don't play at 50NL tho.....
King Car
11-23-2006, 02:12 AM
Raise river?
Grunch
11-23-2006, 02:25 AM
Raise the river. Probably not before.
raising the river is not good, you could easily be blown off this hand... I might get in a raise on the turn though. overall different line but i think i like it... make a note of what he had and how he played it on every street.
Grunch
11-23-2006, 02:35 AM
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you could easily be blown off this hand
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I disagree
Check_The_Nuts
11-23-2006, 02:53 AM
what does he call a river raise with that you beat?!
Grunch
11-23-2006, 03:01 AM
AK/AT? Not sure really
eigenvalue
11-23-2006, 04:01 AM
No, calling preflop is bad here unless we have a strong read on UTG. Reraise a minraiser every time out of the blinds when You have a very strong hand and call him with anything else. Don't let a minraiser destroy Your general game plan. You want to take down this pot immidiately or play it heads up. But anyone should pay a price to see a flop against Your AQs!
eigenvalue
11-23-2006, 04:04 AM
You pick the wrong spot for reraising. This has to be done earlier, preflop would have been the best time to do it.
Sir Winalot
11-23-2006, 04:31 AM
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You pick the wrong spot for reraising. This has to be done earlier, preflop would have been the best time to do it.
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sb is 17/14.7/3.5 over 400 hands, think again.
Yeah, raise river. I could also see arguments for raising the turn.
pr0crast
11-23-2006, 04:42 AM
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You pick the wrong spot for reraising. This has to be done earlier, preflop would have been the best time to do it.
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sb is 17/14.7/3.5 over 400 hands, think again.
Yeah, raise river. I could also see arguments for raising the turn.
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What are you talking about? SB wasn't the raise, SB cold called the $1 minraise made by UTG. SB pretty much is guaranteed to have a low/mid PP with his $1 cold call and those stats...so RAISE THAT [censored] UP or he'll flop a set of ducks on your ass!
CaseS87
11-23-2006, 06:08 AM
fwiw villain ended up having AQ. at the time i had his range at 22, AJ, AQ, AK, or TT.
MegalomaniaMan
11-23-2006, 06:31 AM
i dont like raising the turn, b/c you have just picked up the fd, and reopening betting allows him to push. i agree with not raising the river because of the lack of worse hands that will call.
Dan Bitel
11-23-2006, 12:21 PM
reraise preflop every time here. Don't let them see a flop for cheap.
Raising either the flop or turn is bad.
Very little value to a river raise vs this guy
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