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derosnec
11-22-2006, 01:24 PM
Villain: 42/1/1 over 200 hands (yes, 1% PFR)

at work, so no HH

one limper, I raise 5bb, villain in sb minraises, limper folds, I call

Flop: 836 (two spades)

Villain pots it

I don't know what to do, given his pfr stats

edit: 100bb stacks
kazana
11-22-2006, 01:27 PM
I assume you're holding 99-KK?
Unless you've hit a set (or two pair), this is an easy fold on the flop.
Panthro
11-22-2006, 01:41 PM
Don't know what exact PP you had, but Fold. With those stats and a min PF 3-bet, you're up against a monster. The numbers never lie /images/graemlins/smile.gif
derosnec
11-22-2006, 01:57 PM
I had KK. I reraised all in on flop.
Everlong
11-22-2006, 02:01 PM
Fold. I repeatedly ask myself wtf I bought PAHUD if I insist on ignoring when it tells me donkey found aces/kings whatever.

It's not the end of the world to fold a winner once in a while when in doubt.
Sir Winalot
11-22-2006, 02:07 PM
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I had KK. I reraised all in on flop.

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Good.
Everlong
11-22-2006, 02:10 PM
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I had KK. I reraised all in on flop.

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I assumed you had something weaker. I am not folding KK ever readless unless there is an ace on the flop.
meleader2
11-22-2006, 02:21 PM
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I had KK. I reraised all in on flop.

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I assumed you had something weaker. I am not folding KK ever readless unless there is an ace on the flop.

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I expect to see 99-QQ even AK sometimes here. HOWEVER, if there was no min-reraise preflop YOU MUST FOLD THIS after prodding the pot a little...his 1 agg. factor does not constitute simply top pair.
AndreasQ
11-22-2006, 03:26 PM
Why dont we shove it after the minraise preflop?
King Spew
11-22-2006, 03:48 PM
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Why dont we shove it after the minraise preflop?

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Because villain NEVER raise PF..... He's got aces, maybe kings.
AndreasQ
11-22-2006, 03:56 PM
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Why dont we shove it after the minraise preflop?

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Because villain NEVER raise PF..... He's got aces, maybe kings.

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its only over 200 hands... And i think calling with KK for set value here is a mistake.
meleader2
11-22-2006, 04:27 PM
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Why dont we shove it after the minraise preflop?

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Because villain NEVER raise PF..... He's got aces, maybe kings.

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its only over 200 hands... And i think calling with KK for set value here is a mistake.

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I agree. 3 bet that shizz, call a push with a smile, sigh when it's aces 50% of the time. (the other 50% will be QQ).