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Bobbin
11-22-2006, 09:52 AM
I have $30
SB has $26 or so

I think this was pretty awful but I just couldn't decide what to do on the flop and ended up calling. Villain was 30/10/2.2

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.1/$0.25
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($2.25 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $10</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($22.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $15</font>, Hero folds.

Sir Winalot
11-22-2006, 09:54 AM
Shove flop.

lacrymosa
11-22-2006, 09:54 AM
I'd fold to the flop raise

MortenTA
11-22-2006, 10:10 AM
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I'd fold to the flop raise

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what range do you put villain on here?

I'm shoving this flop.

Sir Winalot
11-22-2006, 10:21 AM
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I'd fold to the flop raise

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This isn't even funny.

Bobbin
11-22-2006, 10:25 AM
Just to confirm anything except going all in is terrible here?

Montezuma21
11-22-2006, 10:40 AM
i think villain would def. RR KK, QQ and probably JJ PF.

That leaves only AT and T9 that beat you. I think you're way ahead of his range which prob. include worse 2p, pair+ str8 draw, AK, AQ maybe) , Axh.

you're way ahead of this range. i'm always pushing here.

Panthro
11-22-2006, 10:41 AM
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Just to confirm anything except going all in is terrible here?

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Based on stacks, I think it's a shove/fold decision.

Sir Winalot
11-22-2006, 10:51 AM
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Just to confirm anything except going all in is terrible here?

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Based on stacks, I think it's a shove/shove decision.

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Sam Spade
11-22-2006, 11:19 AM
I push the flop. Villain's range is any suited A, a high suited K, two unpaired high cards, and any pair. If he is playing his gutshot this way oop, make him pay. You see a worse two pair here a lot.

crookdimwit
11-22-2006, 11:55 AM
Push flop, for all the reasons already stated.

If he had the made straight, is he really looking to re-raise you 4x your flop bet and most likely lose you? Doubt it. My guess is he's sitting scared on AJ, KJ, QJ and just as scared of the draw as you are. Maybe you split here. Either way, I don't think villains' flop bet means you're behind. At the same time, the board IS spooky, so it's time to exert some pressure and put villain to the test. Worse case scenario, you're behind but still have outs to a full house or a split straight.

eigenvalue
11-22-2006, 12:35 PM
Flop: The only likely holding that is ahead of You is JJ. So shove.

Turn: Call! He will not have the ace as often as You think. I guess, his reraise on the flop is more likely something like KJ, QJ, KT, JT, QT (2 pair or 1 pair with OESD). The only likely holdings You loose to are AK, AQ(?), JJ and T9. So the turn is a call.

redCashion
11-22-2006, 01:48 PM
Push flop, fold turn.

wingchunflush
11-22-2006, 02:05 PM
At first I was on the fence of what I would do here. After thinking about it and the hand range he could have shoving does seem to be the bet idea.

lacrymosa
11-22-2006, 09:18 PM
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I'd fold to the flop raise

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lol, I wrote this 2 minutes after the same thing happened to me against a set, so obv results orientated. Push flop (like I did).