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Oranzith
11-22-2006, 07:37 AM
Basically I had no idea what I was doing here. His minbet made me feel he was weak on turn, so I value raised. Overpairs are one of my biggest leaks.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $13.80
CO: $20.70
Button: $7.20
Hero: $11.35
BB: $10

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $0.2</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.6</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: J/images/graemlins/heart.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($1.3, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.9</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($3.1, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $0.7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.1</font>, CO calls.

River: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($9.3, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $6.75</font>, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: $22.8

pdoran10
11-22-2006, 07:49 AM
looks like he might have played a straight pretty well against you.

I like just calling on the turn to keep the pot size down, and then calling a reasonable bet on this bricked river, or betting for value if checked to on the river.

michaelantoi
11-22-2006, 07:53 AM
turn bet did seem very weak so I would have done the same.

River is a check-call for me.

Only a straight draw out there and if he was gonna make it, the river obv. didn't help.

kazana
11-22-2006, 08:26 AM
Only very few worse hands will call that river bet. Just about every better hand will, though.
So, I'd rather go for a c/c on the river to induce a few bluffs.

I wouldn't mind calling the turn to keep the pot smaller, either, but a raise is definitely okay.

lacrymosa
11-22-2006, 08:31 AM
I reraise to $1 preflop

CaptVimes
11-22-2006, 09:34 AM
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looks like he might have played a straight pretty well against you.

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This doesn't look like a straight at all. Did he really raise preflop with QT? I know anything is possible and with no reads its hard to determine his starting range. To me this is a set of J's, 9's, or maybe 8's. As played I check call the river if its reasonable. Not going to call a shove vs an unknown.

Sir Winalot
11-22-2006, 09:53 AM
Raise bigger preflop and the turn.