$50NL - flopped set of 8s, re-raised on river with 3flush out

[loveminuszero]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $79.05
Hero: $46.75
Button: $76.20
SB: $48.75
BB: $75.90

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $2</font>, Hero calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($4.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 7/images/graemlins/club.gif ($4.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, UTG calls.

River: A/images/graemlins/club.gif ($10.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $36</font>, Hero?

[MegalomaniaMan]

psb on flop, 2/3-psb on the turn. i think it would take alot of the guessing out of the hand.

[the machine]

bet the flop and turn and call the river reraise. this could easliy be AK/AQ

[loveminuszero]

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2/3-psb on the turn.

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3/4.75 = .63 ~=2/3 the pot, please read before commenting


why bet the flop? are we not happy to trap him?

[the machine]

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2/3-psb on the turn.

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3/4.75 = .63 of the pot, not a huge difference between my bet and 2/3 the pot, please read before commenting

why bet the flop? are we not happy to trap him?

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fast play is the new slowplay. no one expects you to lead a set. also it gives you more cred when you cbet at flops you whiffed. if you always check big hands your cbets will get no respect to a thinking player

[loveminuszero]

yeah i may just be playing results, but i still kind of like checking behind to trap. i called the riv re-raise and he showed 77. (this may have lead to my bias towards checking that flop)

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a thinking player

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At $50NL?

[Hail Eris]

Really easy call. There's only like 4 hands he could have that you'd be worried about. Also if you were deeper and it made any difference, you could easily push here if you had a read that he'll semibluff flush draws.

Slowplaying this is perfectly fine, because you weren't the PFR and this is a really dry flop.

[iFoldTheNuts]

I bet this flop. So many players at this level will check this flop with AK for some odd reason. IDK why, but I've seen it many times. Maybe going for a CR when it's unnecessary.

[loveminuszero]

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Really easy call

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I know folding isn't an option, but should I ever push overtop of his re-raise, or is flat calling usually the best action?

[orange]

I bet this flop in position. I bet this flop alot in general if checked to, so hmm. OOP, I can see checking, but in position, I think you should bet most times.

At the very least, I call the river.

[SubaruSTiMike]

i think nowadays fast play is the old slow play and slow play is the new slow play.

[Hail Eris]

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Really easy call

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I know folding isn't an option, but should I ever push overtop of his re-raise, or is flat calling usually the best action?

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Well you have like $6 left, so I put it in as a matter of principle.

If you had like 200BB or something, I probably shove here, but only if I knew that he'd bet the turn with a flush draw. His hand looks like aces up, a slowplayed set (two of which you beat), QcJc, and not a whole lot else. If you can rule out the flush, shove all day.

[pdoran10]

Bet this flop. and pray he flat calls. This means he has AK or KQ most of the time and think he is trapping you.

No reason to slowplay here. As played he could have made a flush with something like QJ of clubs which he checked on the flop.

Bet flop and if he folds, you werent gonna get much more out of this hand anyways. Slowplaying gets urself trapped...

[HobbitFeet]

Results? Did he flush you out? Or did he have 2nd set by the river? Looks, like this is a slow play played too slow. QcJc.

[Vammakala]

Bet flop.

[Jigsaws]

Not betting the flop here makes me a sad sad bunny.

[Waingro]

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yeah i may just be playing results, but i still kind of like checking behind to trap. i called the riv re-raise and he showed 77. (this may have lead to my bias towards checking that flop)


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Well if you are checking the flop in the hope of villain catching a lower set on the turn I don´t think that will happen very often. What will happen the vast majority of the time is that the pot will stay small and it will be hard to get the money in unless you are up against a villain who doesn´t mind going ballistic on scary rivers.