25NL, KK, how did I play it?

[jdefoe]

villan is the weak tight type...

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SB ($9.40)
BB ($13.50)
UTG ($40.95)
UTG+1 ($27.90)
MP1 ($27.90)
Hero ($31.50)
MP3 ($29.15)
CO ($41.85)
Button ($27.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP1 calls $1.

He seems to be limping in with any pair, Ace-x (where x is Q or less)
Flop: ($2.85) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, MP1 calls $1.75.

should i bet more here? He smooth calls here. He might do that on JJ-77 here though

Turn: ($6.35) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, Hero checks.
Ok, i check because i have him smoked, or he has me smoked

River: ($6.35) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $0.5</font>, Hero calls $0.50.
I didnt raise because he'd only call me if he has a Q or 77. he would fold JJ or better to a river raise here.

Final Pot: $7.35

how do you think I played it?

[wingchunflush]

Raise pf seems a little large, isnt 4x bb standard? I think that the raise on the flop should be a little more. I know that a hand that calls probably has you beat, but btting that small seems weak to me. As played fine, he could be betting the river because the turn was checked.

[WorkInProgress]

Wingchun, ppl often do 4BB + 1BB for each limper, which is what OP did here, so that's fine.

I'd bet pot or slightly over pot here. Once he smooth called that strong a bet, I'd see waht he does on turn. Checkign there is fine if you think he has it. I usually dont give that kinda credit to my opponent and fire a half pot bet again. If he calls that, I'll prolly call his river min bet to look him up, but definitely wouldnt' raise the river.

As he played it, he might be super slow playing his trips or full house, or be a donk with some mid pair or low pair.

[Snafu'd]

I think preflop and flop are fine. I also think its fine if you decide to make it a little more expensive on the flop. I'm betting this turn most of the time against an unknown.

[jdefoe]

Ok, say you bet 1/2 pot here, and villan raises, what do you do then?

[akkahai]

I would play it the same way. Classic WA/WB, lose big or win small. So make it lose small or win small instead. Pot control checkdown is good as you're not that much worried about free cards.

And make a note of what he minbet the river with.. weird play.

[Tjorriemorrie]

fold

[jdefoe]

He held 77 in the actual hand...maybe he perceived my flop bet as a c-bet since i checked behind on turn

[ChipStorm]

If you're confident villain is weak-tight, I like it. Flop bet size is a little small, but that's fine for this draw-free board; you're WA/WB right out of the gate. nh.

Versus typical donk, though, I probably value bet the river, 1/2 pot, expecting to get calls from smaller pairs.

I'd make a note and avoid this guy. It's not that you can't beat him, it's just that rocks aren't profitable targets.

[BukNaked36]

Standard line -

Bet $2 on the flop.

Bet 2/3 pot on the turn.

Check/call reasonable river bet.

You're trying to get value out of 88-JJ, A7

In the end, it looks you made a good read.

[MortenTA]

**grunch**

Im betting turn here. If he raises your probably beat and you can safely lay your hand down. A7,88,99,TT,JJ still calls. He might even call with 55 and 66.

[BukNaked36]

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If you're confident villain is weak-tight, I like it. Flop bet size is a little small, but that's fine for this draw-free board; you're WA/WB right out of the gate. nh.

Versus typical donk, though, I probably value bet the river, 1/2 pot, expecting to get calls from smaller pairs.

I'd make a note and avoid this guy. It's not that you can't beat him, it's just that rocks aren't profitable targets.

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End up having to playing with them to catch the other fish. Have to nickel and dime them so it's a pain in the butt.

Against rocks -

Raise preflop and cbet everytime

Call their preflop raises and bluff scary turns and rivers on junk boards

When they show aggression, get out of the way

[Sam Spade]

Fire out a 3/4 to pot size bet on the flop. If he smooth calls and checks to me on the turn, I bet 1/2 pot. I'm pretty much done if he raises. If he leads out for 3/4 pot on the flop, I'm folding and looking for a better spot.

As played I call the insignificant river bet getting about a billion to one. The only person calling a big river raise has us smoked.

[ChipStorm]

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**grunch**

Im betting turn here. If he raises your probably beat and you can safely lay your hand down. A7,88,99,TT,JJ still calls. He might even call with 55 and 66.

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IMO, if a nit calls my flop bet here, this is an easy turn check behind. We are certainly WA/WB, and all the nit needs is a Q to be way ahead. He's not drawing on us, and he knows very well we could have a big pair, or a Q ourselves. So vs. the described opponent, I'm checking turn here 100% of the time.

[EscapePlan9]

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I would play it the same way. Classic WA/WB, lose big or win small. So make it lose small or win small instead. Pot control checkdown is good as you're not that much worried about free cards.

And make a note of what he minbet the river with.. weird play.

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[jdefoe]

Do we ever bet the turn on this board?

[restrikt]

Looks fine.

[iFoldTheNuts]

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Do we ever bet the turn on this board?

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hardly ever.

[Sam Spade]

Let's say we do check the turn. What's your plan if he fires out a 1/2 pot bet on the river to our show of weakness?

[jdefoe]

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Let's say we do check the turn. What's your plan if he fires out a 1/2 pot bet on the river to our show of weakness?

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we call. But if we bet turn and he raises we can get away from it. But if he calls again, and then bets river i guess we can fold